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Previously on "Jews not welcom at Kristallnacht commemoration in Sweden"

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  • darmstadt
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    For the life of me, why would anyone want a celebration of Kristallnacht, it wasn't exactly a joyous occasion. Now a remembrance service or such like yes...

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  • xoggoth
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    confusing dislike for the actions of the nation of Israel with dislike of people based on their religion
    One can spill over into the other:

    Perpetrators of the most serious incidents were described as "being perceived as someone with Muslim extremist views, 27%, left-wing political views, 22%, or with right-wing views, 19%".
    Anti-Semitism 'on the rise' say Europe's Jews - BBC News

    Anti-Semitism has never been the preserve of the right anyway:

    Left-wing anti-Semitism is anything but a new phenomenon – Telegraph Blogs

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    That and the pogroms, this hatred is not a new thing

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    My grasp of history might be a tad off, but wasn't the problem that extreme RIGHT wingers didn't like the Jewish people, as is still going on today.


    So why you choose to blame a left winger for it is a bit strange, unless you are confusing dislike for the actiona of the nation of Israel with dislike of people based on their religion - two very different things.

    Read the article and you would see it's the Swedish Labour party who didn't want the jews, hatred against Jews has been copied to both extreme right and extreme left including Corbyn who stated that Hezbollah and Hamas are his friends

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    My grasp of history might be a tad off, but wasn't the problem that extreme RIGHT wingers didn't like the Jewish people, as is still going on today.
    That was the problem then. The problem now is the left (and to an extent the unthinking liberals) hate Jews because they hate Israel* and perceive all Jews as Israel supporters by default. The right are rather more straightforward. They don't try to camouflage their anti-Semitism, they just hate Jews.

    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    ...unless you are confusing dislike for the actiona of the nation of Israel with dislike of people based on their religion - two very different things.
    This is rather the point. While technically two different things, in reality the first is all too often a cover for the second. I.e. no matter what they say, what they're driven by is visceral, emotional hate - Israel can do no right and any wrong the Palestinians might do is Israel's fault anyway - rather than politically opposition to Israel on the grounds of historical and current injustices (some perceived, others actual).

    i.e. you can legitimately indulge your anti-Semitism by using anti-Israel language.

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    My grasp of history might be a tad off, but wasn't the problem that national socialists and communists didn't like the Jewish people, as is still going on today.
    FTFY

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    wtf-ingf?

    In Sweden, a Kristallnacht commemoration without Jews - Diaspora - Jerusalem Post

    Looks like the Corbynistas have taken over the far north of Sweden as well


    My grasp of history might be a tad off, but wasn't the problem that extreme RIGHT wingers didn't like the Jewish people, as is still going on today.


    So why you choose to blame a left winger for it is a bit strange, unless you are confusing dislike for the actiona of the nation of Israel with dislike of people based on their religion - two very different things.

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  • barrydidit
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    wtf-ingf?

    In Sweden, a Kristallnacht commemoration without Jews - Diaspora - Jerusalem Post

    Looks like the Corbynistas have taken over the far north of Sweden as well
    I don't think they were welcome at the original event either. So...wouldn't that be the opposite end of the political spectrum to the Comrade? Unless there is a pro-palestinian element to this? I cba to read the article.

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  • Eirikur
    started a topic Jews not welcom at Kristallnacht commemoration in Sweden

    Jews not welcom at Kristallnacht commemoration in Sweden

    wtf-ingf?

    In Sweden, a Kristallnacht commemoration without Jews - Diaspora - Jerusalem Post

    Looks like the Corbynistas have taken over the far north of Sweden as well

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