Reply to: Lead X Limited / Hays IT

[Taita]

Hi,

Im a bit of a newbie (this is my first post) so please excuse if I dont know the customs on here.

Ive been offered a 3 month contract with a decent rate through Hays IT, its exactly what I want to be doing skills and experience wise, my only concern is that Im not too sure about how reputable the end client are. I was wondering what your feelings would be in my position if youre not 100% sure of the ethics of the company?



Thanks

They are not a very big company so I think I would be more worried about their credit rating (unless the Hays contract will pay you regardless) than their morals, but each to his own.

[northernladuk]

Bit dodgy to be questioning your future clients ethics on a public forum dont you think???

KUATB

[pafc81]

Thanks again for the advice.

Moderators - please can you edit the name out fo the title of this thread?

Thanks

[wim121]

Obviously the IT work I'll actually be doing is legal and legit (netowrk infrastructure stuff) its just my reputation and morals Im bothered about e.g. when I explain to my family who Im working for etc.

NB: You arent working for the client, you are working for an agency.

If anyone asks what I do, I say Im an IT contractor. If they ask what my current contract is, I'll say desktop support (crawling under desks like Roy in the IT crowd) or clearing offices of bankrupt firms, etc etc.

What the client co does, who they employ, whether they like to dress up at weekends, etc etc, is irrelevant. Nobody expects a contractor to be intimately involved with the client. The only time you have to explain and justify your company is if they have a terrible rep for how they treat employees and you're a permie manager for instance. Then that is the only time it reflects badly on you.

[Joeman]

Bit dodgy to be questioning your future clients ethics on a public forum dont you think???

[wim121]

Ive been offered a 3 month contract with a decent rate through Hays IT, its exactly what I want to be doing skills and experience wise, my only concern is that Im not too sure about how reputable the end client are. I was wondering what your feelings would be in my position if youre not 100% sure of the ethics of the company?

Ethics of the company?

By **company name** are you referring to the advertising agency near altrincham? I havent worked for them but know someone who has, legit business.

Im not too worried about Hays paying - Im sure they are reputable

Ha ha ha ha ha hilarious statement!

Hays IT have one of the worst reps among agents. I cant say how I really feel about them because then I would be using inappropriate language, but suffice to say, you are better off speaking to a nigerian banker about the millions that you are owed because you are a descendant of an ape.

Hays are notorious for screwing contractors around and generally wasting your time. You'll be lucky if this role even materialises!

By the way, if you dont have your limited company and use an umbrella, I would recommend Gabem as Ive used them before (Hays will only let you use their list of umbrellas).

Im just concerned about the co themselves

- a quick google of them reveals murky business like cold calling and lead trading (not 100% sure what that really involves).

Obviously the IT work I'll actually be doing is legal and legit (netowrk infrastructure stuff) its just my reputation and morals Im bothered about e.g. when I explain to my family who Im working for etc.

Any advice gratefully recieved!

You arent the one doing cold calling.

Even if you were, it is the owner of the business that bears the moral conflicts of such a business.

No offense, but get over it and you will soon learn that all businesses act in what you consider "shady! way. List any company and instantly one could list "shady" operating practices. Cold calling is a way of life, tough luck. Numerous companies lead trade, look at insurers!

How else do you expect companies to get new business unless they have a staff member called Sooty? You cant jus magic custom out of thin air. You have to explore avenues and promote your business until you become a large corporation who doesnt care if they lose custom as they have such a massive market share. The ethics of corporations are far more shady than limited companies!

[northernladuk]

WHS.

I'd also be very wary of anyone mentioning LeadX in the thread as well.

Very clever! Evil but clever

[cojak]

Hi,

Thanks for your replies.

Im not too worried about Hays paying - Im sure they are reputable, Im just concerned about the co themselves - a quick google of them reveals murky business like cold calling and lead trading (not 100% sure what that really involves).

Obviously the IT work I'll actually be doing is legal and legit (netowrk infrastructure stuff) its just my reputation and morals Im bothered about e.g. when I explain to my family who Im working for etc.

Any advice gratefully recieved!

The only things that worry us are when we get paid and that we don't do anything illegal.

That's it.

We're not the holder of your ethics and morals - I repeat if you don't like them don't work for them.

(oh and thanks, btw - I'm sure that someone with grubbier morals than yours has already tapped them up for your job )

[pafc81]

If you want to change the thread title, you'll need a moderator to remove any reference to LeadX.

HTH.

thanks.

Moderator can you make this happen for me please?

[TheFaQQer]

thanks for the advice chaps

If you want to change the thread title, you'll need a moderator to remove any reference to LeadX

HTH.

[TheFaQQer]

Just pray to god they don't see your post. Good move naming your client in an open forum

WHS.

I'd also be very wary of anyone mentioning LeadX in the thread as well.

[pafc81]

oops!

thanks for the advice chaps

[pmeswani]

Hi,

Thanks for your replies.

Im not too worried about Hays paying - Im sure they are reputable, Im just concerned about LeadX themselves - a quick google of them reveals murky business like cold calling and lead trading (not 100% sure what that really involves).

Obviously the IT work I'll actually be doing is legal and legit (netowrk infrastructure stuff) its just my reputation and morals Im bothered about e.g. when I explain to my family who Im working for etc.

Any advice gratefully recieved!

1. Are they supplying Weapons to countries that are on the export ban list?
2. Are they providing Banking services to International War Criminals that have been tried and convicted?
3. Are they providing any from of legitimate services to countries that are on the official export ban list?

If you answer yes to any of these questions, then you have to ask yourself if you believe in morals.

[TheFaQQer]

nahh nothing to worry about, if they typed there own company name in google this thread only appears 4th on the list

their!

[v8gaz]

Morals? I thought this was a contractors forum