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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    I get the feeling that I may have been shafted slightly, and maybe need to get a solicitor involved to see if there is a possibility for breach of contract
    Probably but you'll find that's part of contracting. You may get shafted with no recourse - a simple case of "don't work your notice, we're not obliged to give you work for the four weeks, goodbye."

    Turn it the other way round - do you think that, if the client declare that they've run out of money, you must work your notice even though there's no chance of being paid?

    "The budget has been pulled."
    "The project has changed direction."

    Two common phrases used when canning contractors without notice.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    I get the feeling that I may have been shafted slightly, and maybe need to get a solicitor involved to see if there is a possibility for breach of contract
    We are trying to tell you exactly the opposite. This is very common and happens of often in contracting.

    Use Google and search the forums and you'll find 100s of threads on the same topic.

    Type in.
    Notice period site:contractoruk.com/forums

    What should be more concerning to you is you don't appear to understand your engagement model and sounds like you've not read your contract thoroughly enough.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    I get the feeling that I may have been shafted slightly, and maybe need to get a solicitor involved to see if there is a possibility for breach of contract
    Even if the contract has been breached, it doesn't mean you suffered any damages - i.e. if there was no payment due because you hadn't done any work. If you can find a solicitor to give you a free Introductory meeting, there's no harm in that.

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  • cannon999
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    There is no breach of contract. You get paid for the work that you do. No work done = no pay. I assume you are new to contracting?

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  • Delity
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Last sentence is irrelevant I'm afraid.

    You gave their argument. Is that what the contract says? How does that contract define your remuneration. I.e. what is it in return for?
    Should I get a solicitor involved to see if there is a possibility for breach of contract
    Last edited by Delity; 24 April 2020, 09:12.

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  • Delity
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Last sentence is irrelevant I'm afraid.

    You gave their argument. Is that what the contract says? How does that contract define your remuneration. I.e. what is it in return for?
    There is no real definition of this
    Last edited by Delity; 24 April 2020, 09:11.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    Correct, and it's not clear and there is ambiguity, their argument is based on :

    the consultant (me) will provide services for projects undertaken from time to time

    I know full well should I have left mid-project, they would have held me to my notice of 4 weeks to complete project/hand over
    Last sentence is irrelevant I'm afraid.

    You gave their argument. Is that what the contract says? How does that contract define your remuneration. I.e. what is it in return for?

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  • Delity
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    The problem is whether or not the client can give four weeks' notice to terminate the contract (or even just terminate without notice) and say that there is no work available, meaning that there is no payment due, as payment is made for work done. Only a proper read of the contract will reveal this.
    Correct, and it's not clear and there is ambiguity, their argument is based on :
    Last edited by Delity; 24 April 2020, 09:11.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    Paid monthly in arrears, invoice to be submitted not signed timesheets etc

    Notice is simply either party can give 4 weeks notice to terminate the contract, in writing
    The problem is whether or not the client can give four weeks' notice to terminate the contract (or even just terminate without notice) and say that there is no work available, meaning that there is no payment due, as payment is made for work done. Only a proper read of the contract will reveal this.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    Paid monthly in arrears, invoice to be submitted not signed timesheets etc

    Notice is simply either party can give 4 weeks notice to terminate the contract, in writing
    Have you read your contract? What currency are you paid in?

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  • Delity
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Understood. Very few of us here are sole traders, however...

    ...what does your contract say about payment, signed timesheets, and notice period?


    Notice is simply either party can give 4 weeks notice to terminate the contract, in writing
    Last edited by Delity; 24 April 2020, 09:11.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    sole trader, no agency involved
    Understood. Very few of us here are sole traders, however...

    ...what does your contract say about payment, signed timesheets and notice period?

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by Delity View Post
    monthly
    Month or week in arrears?

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  • Delity
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Are you on weekly or monthly payment cycle?
    monthly

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  • Delity
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Are you a sole trader? Is an agency involved?
    no agency involved
    Last edited by Delity; 24 April 2020, 09:10.

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