Reply to: Indian Recruitment Agencies

[eek]

Then I'd imagine that your signature is very pertinent atm...

Especially when its aimed at the Clientco's Networks manager - I believe a new outsource PM is due to arrive imminently

[cojak]

Very end clientco have a system integrator in at the moment. The casteism is something to behold...

Then I'd imagine that your signature is very pertinent atm...

[eek]

Clientco's system integrator can't find an inexperienced test manager in the UK or Europe, but they've managed to find one in India. Currently waiting for the visa to come through.

Very end clientco have a system integrator in at the moment. The casteism is something to behold...

[meridian]

Legitimate consultancy? Infosys, Cognizant, Tata, etc are nothing of the sort, they are simply a means of getting cheap labour into the country.

Clientco's system integrator can't find an inexperienced test manager in the UK or Europe, but they've managed to find one in India. Currently waiting for the visa to come through.

[CoolCat]

Err, yes it does.

Remember there's a massive difference between a legitimate consultancy and a work-permit providing intermediary.

Legitimate consultancy? Infosys, Cognizant, Tata, etc are nothing of the sort, they are simply a means of getting cheap labour into the country.

[stek]

Sponsor doesn't need to be end client. Otherwise the thousands in the country for the big outsourcers on site for our big multinationals would get kicked out.

Err, yes it does.

Remember there's a massive difference between a legitimate consultancy and a work-permit providing intermediary.

[CoolCat]

Sponsor doesn't need to be end client. Otherwise the thousands in the country for the big outsourcers on site for our big multinationals would get kicked out.

[stek]

Is it deception though? From what I understand these firms (that sponsor these folks' tier 2s) work much like an agency or an umbrella or a consultancy firm, a middleman that finds the work basically and dispatches people out to do it. Where's the illegality?

Also Tier-2 hasn't counted towards ILR for a good while now (3-ish years if I'm not mistaken).

It is, because it's not the end client who allocates CoS and sponsors the worker, and they don't relaay work like that, the flow goes something like this;

1. Applicant secures contract without telling agent that he needs sponsorship.

2. Applicant assigns contract to dodgybrollyco who charge applicant for visa as they are on the list of sponsors, and cream off a huge percentage of the rate too.

3. Applicant continues - goal to get ILR.

Of course, sooner or later dodgybrollyco is caught and stripped of sponsors licence, leaving applicant in limbo, or continues for 5 years, applies for ILR, UKVI contact dodgybrollyco, see it's dodgy, remove it's sponsors licence, deny ILR for applicant for deception and issue 10 year ban.

Proper consulting companies are ok, since they are the licenced sponsors.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/uk...r-t240660.html

https://www.immigrationboards.com/uk...g-t240618.html

[theroyale]

This is actually true but to be fair UKVI is on it and removes them from the list of sponsors pretty quickly now.

Plus it knobbles any chance of ILR and counts it as deception which equals no more visas.

Is it deception though? From what I understand these firms (that sponsor these folks' tier 2s) work much like an agency or an umbrella or a consultancy firm, a middleman that finds the work basically and dispatches people out to do it. Where's the illegality?

Also Tier-2 hasn't counted towards ILR for a good while now (3-ish years if I'm not mistaken).

[stek]

but if someone is already in UK there are companies who sponsor their visa in return of a monthly fee and a cut from contracting income and they can start contracting.
Met one indian chap who started contracting after ditching his indian outsourcing company.

This is actually true but to be fair UKVI is on it and removes them from the list of sponsors pretty quickly now.

Plus it knobbles any chance of ILR and counts it as deception which equals no more visas.

[Andy2]

Can't contract if non-EU (unless on T5 YMS), it's not possible, you need sponsorship, COS, SMS officer, RMLT, so you must be mistaken.

but if someone is already in UK there are companies who sponsor their visa in return of a monthly fee and a cut from contracting income and they can start contracting.
Met one indian chap who started contracting after ditching his indian outsourcing company.

[Bluenose]

Dats not nice.

muhuhahaha!

[stek]

Indian off-shore workers coming over for 'knowledge transfer'

No such visa. Unless u mean KTP's - they're not the same though, it's for graduate already here...

[northernladuk]

Indian off-shore workers coming over for 'knowledge transfer'

Dats not nice.

[Bluenose]

What six month visas are those?

Indian off-shore workers coming over for 'knowledge transfer'