how do I get the "working practices" reviewed or signed-off?

[mudskipper]

Call me a cynic.... The motivation of (some of) these status experts demands a healthy degree of skepticism. Many companies exist through selling IR35 products. However, some of them are more aggressive than others in promoting their brands and products. There is no story here. What's more illuminating is why this story even exists. We're talking about a tiny sample size, for which no reasonable assessment can be made. Nothing has changed in the way HMRC view this information. Supporting information, such as a CoA, has always always been viewed conditionally upon the circumstances of a particular case. Clearly, if the CoA contradicts the contract, it will carry little weight. Moreover, you can expect HMRC to view all submitted evidence skeptically until they have formed their own opinion. This is their job. This quote buried deep in the article tells us all we need to know:



Personally, I place my trust in those companies and commentators (Abbey Tax being one of them) that focus on their professional job and don't go out of their way to manufacture IR35 stories from nothing. Look out for those individuals and companies that are regularly in the media promoting the case for IR35 (i.e. "It exists, let's make the best of it, and enforce it properly. (Using our products. Other products are available. Ours are best.)").

I agree. It looks like a bit of a non-story, but perhaps one to keep half an eye on.

[jamesbrown]

There seemed to be some conflicting views on that.

Doubts raised over confirmation of arrangements (CoA) for IR35 :: Contractor UK

Call me a cynic.... The motivation of (some of) these status experts demands a healthy degree of skepticism. Many companies exist through selling IR35 products. However, some of them are more aggressive than others in promoting their brands and products. There is no story here. What's more illuminating is why this story even exists. We're talking about a tiny sample size, for which no reasonable assessment can be made. Nothing has changed in the way HMRC view this information. Supporting information, such as a CoA, has always always been viewed conditionally upon the circumstances of a particular case. Clearly, if the CoA contradicts the contract, it will carry little weight. Moreover, you can expect HMRC to view all submitted evidence skeptically until they have formed their own opinion. This is their job. This quote buried deep in the article tells us all we need to know:

“One of my team has a case where the client has a substitution clause in the contract and has activated the clause and used a substitute,” reflected Guy Smith, who manages investigations at Abbey Tax.

“However, HMRC are still attempting to go through the [normal IR35 enquiry] process…so if they put so little store in one of the fundamental areas of IR35, it is hardly surprising that CoA letters carry little weight.”

Personally, I place my trust in those companies and commentators (Abbey Tax being one of them) that focus on their professional job and don't go out of their way to manufacture IR35 stories from nothing. Look out for those individuals and companies that are regularly in the media promoting the case for IR35 (i.e. "It exists, let's make the best of it, and enforce it properly. (Using our products. Other products are available. Ours are best.)").

[mudskipper]

Not only that, I read an article that stated hmrc were dismissing these signed statements.

There seemed to be some conflicting views on that.

Doubts raised over confirmation of arrangements (CoA) for IR35 :: Contractor UK

[BolshieBastard]

There are a lot of gotcha's here as well. If it's not signed by the right person it's worthless for example..

Plenty of reading on them here..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=co...EIi67gawjYOIDA

Not only that, I read an article that stated hmrc were dismissing these signed statements.

[northernladuk]

There are a lot of gotcha's here as well. If it's not signed by the right person it's worthless for example..

Plenty of reading on them here..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=co...EIi67gawjYOIDA

[TheFaQQer]

Try here.

[new2c]

how do I get the "working practices" reviewed or signed-off?

I guess, these have to be signed-off by the end client and not the agency I am dealing with? Is this correct?

Is there a document to be signed for "working practices", is there a template?