Reply to: Border chaos may mean shop shortages within weeks

[clearedforlanding]

Strange the blobs are on French / German border. Maybe Switzerland invaded them?


The three hours is an end to end, no waiting time.

That my friend is because no one is coming inbound. Freight prices are up by up to 500%.

[vetran]

If you had any geographical knowledge (I know gammons don't have it) you would see they were mostly with the Borders between FR and CH and DE and CH

If you zoom in on Dover you can see there is first a waiting time at Ashford at the Farage Lorry Park of 4 hours and then up to 3 hours in Dover for the ferry
As for Poland, Belarus is still not in the EU

Strange the blobs are on French / German border. Maybe Switzerland invaded them?


The three hours is an end to end, no waiting time.

[vetran]

No need to worry about shortages anymore, apparently the UK will just let lorries come in without checks:

HMRC chief: loosening of customs checks on trucks to cost UK GBP800m in 2021 - Trans.INFO

Bit of a kick in the teeth in regards to tax charges, but they can tax contractors more to make it even

However, Harra also said that the UK will able to obtain £300m in extra VAT as HMRC can “tighten up on the payment of the VAT by online marketplaces, for example like eBay and Amazon.”

so £500M?

The £800m being an estimate?

So far just around 5% of the trucks have been held back due to issues with paperwork or covid tests.

[dsc]

No need to worry about shortages anymore, apparently the UK will just let lorries come in without checks:

HMRC chief: loosening of customs checks on trucks to cost UK GBP800m in 2021 - Trans.INFO

Bit of a kick in the teeth in regards to tax charges, but they can tax contractors more to make it even

[Eirikur]

The whiff of desperation..

But France & Germany are, so is Poland. They all were however red.

When I looked Dover was amber but no waiting time displayed.

If you had any geographical knowledge (I know gammons don't have it) you would see they were mostly with the Borders between FR and CH and DE and CH

If you zoom in on Dover you can see there is first a waiting time at Ashford at the Farage Lorry Park of 4 hours and then up to 3 hours in Dover for the ferry
As for Poland, Belarus is still not in the EU

[vetran]

I knew some gammon head was going to say that when I posted the link for the first time
Switzerland is not part of the EU neither of the 2nd level EEA only third level EFTA which means there are some border checks on lorries also note it's 30 - 60 minutes when these go red Dover Calais goes amber at 2 hours

The whiff of desperation..

But France & Germany are, so is Poland. They all were however red.

When I looked Dover was amber but no waiting time displayed.

[darmstadt]

No problems here, plenty of fresh fruit and veg, no shortages at all, even stacks of toilet paper in the shops...

[clearedforlanding]

What kind of food shortages are we talking about here?

Brie, gruyere, chorizo...?

Pretty much. The good stuff.

Oh, that & all the fruit & veg.

[CheeseSlice]

What kind of food shortages are we talking about here?

Brie, gruyere, chorizo...?

[dsc]

So Big Daves week goes from bad to... - Templar European Logistics | Facebook

This is the reality now, but yeah sure, absolutely great and wouldn't have it any other way. Ffs.

[Eirikur]

Did France, Switzerland and Germany Brexit because they all have > 1hr waiting time on their borders?

I knew some gammon head was going to say that when I posted the link for the first time
Switzerland is not part of the EU neither of the 2nd level EEA only third level EFTA which means there are some border checks on lorries also note it's 30 - 60 minutes when these go red Dover Calais goes amber at 2 hours

[vetran]

There aren't any queues at all at most borders within the EU.

Truck Border Crossing Times & Brexit Ports | Sixfold

Interesting map apparently the red dots show its over an hour delay but lots seem to have longer end to end times but show Amber. Doesn't present the data very well. However it does claim to show queues none of which are reported in Dover. There is a 2km queue to Calais and a 1km queue at Harwich (this wasn't unusual 30 years ago), 1km to Folkestone. That however could be due to

Dover to Calais (amber) is 3 hours. Calais to Dover (One assumes the delay is in Calais?) is showing 15 hours (usually 7 hours strange its always been < 3 hours for me do the trucks sit in a different time zone on the ferry?).

There are no waiting times shown at Dover at

So no queues leaving Dover but queues getting to Calais, whose fault is that?

Did France, Switzerland and Germany Brexit because they all have > 1hr waiting time on their borders?

[BlasterBates]

Yes.

There aren't any queues at all at most borders within the EU.

Truck Border Crossing Times & Brexit Ports | Sixfold

[AtW]

I am not complaining you saddos are. When being mates is more important than logic in a pandemic most people would consider that a bit sad.

Logic is that club members get more favourable to them rules than to those outside of the club (for membership of which they pay).

[vetran]

Belgium is part of EU and UK is a third country, do try to keep up, that's what you wanted after all.

I am not complaining you saddos are. When being mates is more important than logic in a pandemic most people would consider that a bit sad.