I have to say Tim Weatherspoon has hit the nail on the head, this is how to get your Hard Brexit:
EU will beg to trade with UK if Brexit talks breakdown, Tim Martin | UK | News | Express.co.uk
i.e. walk out of the talks and play hard to get.
The downside of the strategy is that it will trash huge sectors of the economy, so requires a huge majority to shove it down peoples' throats.
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Previously on "Brexit - Do you think we can just ask everyone nicely to forget about it"
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Macron says the door is still open to remain. The UK does not deserve such generosity but I guess it is a charity case now.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostJust to wind up blasterbates & co
2017-06-12 The Government’s plans for a ‘Vote Leave’ Brexit are far from derailed
Even the Daily Express is expressing doubts on a Hard Brexit. There is no majority in the Commons and the government will come crashing down if they try.
Here is the plan:
The EU offers EEA membership and interminable negotiations extending well into the next century for a comprehensive complex trade deal, with 10 to 20 very thick volumes of fine detail to be hammered out.
The government feebly tries to resist and then caves in.
The only hope for a Hard Brexit was to be able to handle at least a short period on WTO rules to demonstrate the government means business, because the EU would certainly take it that far if there were to be an impasse.
Last edited by BlasterBates; 13 June 2017, 21:09.
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThere is surprisingly little difference between "the common market" and the EU, when I worked in the "Common Market" the residents permit was automatic. They only key differences are the Euro, and the parliament. The laws that the UK signed up to haven't expanded because the opted out of virtually all of it, most of them due to the adoption of the Euro. Up until the mid 1980's Labour were trying to get the UK out in spite of the 1975 referendum, and soon after that the Referendum party was founded.
The complaints I hear freedom of movement, too much money going to Brussels and they're stealing our fish all go back to 1975.
bring on the next referendum.
Who wants to be ruled by Berlin?
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostThe only people whom a hard Brexit (i.e. exiting the SM and CU and/or no deal with the EU) would benefit are very rich Tories, who want to change this country into a low wage, low rights version of the US.
The other class advocating it are poor and thick Kippers who have no idea what it would entail.
Which group do you belong to?
Whether there is hard of soft Brexit, the rich will get richer. Were Korbyn to get in, I would console myself that the rich are going to be cut down to size.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostJust to wind up blasterbates & co
2017-06-12 The Government’s plans for a ‘Vote Leave’ Brexit are far from derailed
The other class advocating it are poor and thick Kippers who have no idea what it would entail.
Which group do you belong to?
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostJust to wind up blasterbates & co
2017-06-12 The Government’s plans for a ‘Vote Leave’ Brexit are far from derailed
The media.
Excluding the usual fibbing media coverage it looks as if the idea is to negotiate the outcome. You didn't vote for hard or soft, you voted to leave the EU in an advisory referendum.
Excluding inflammatory media coverage to rile you up, there is no evidence that 'hard' is indeed the best BREXIT outcome. Just because it's what you personally feel is fitting doesn't mean it will be actioned.
Never did understand this notion of the advisory referendum result suddenly dictating a hard BREXIT. It's only in the minds of those who read the newspapers.
Given the lack of UK governance, we can only hope a commission is created to handle this. It seems implausible for the country to be governed appropriately AND leaving the EU negotiated - too much work for any government.
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Just to wind up blasterbates & co
2017-06-12 The Government’s plans for a ‘Vote Leave’ Brexit are far from derailed
... both the Tories and Labour – as well as UKIP, of course – went into this general election standing on a platform of accepting the referendum result. These Pro-Brexit parties got more than 85% of the vote last week.
And yet some of the usual suspects have popped up over the weekend to claim now that the result of the general election is somehow a mandate for a so-called “soft Brexit” – that propaganda term favoured by continuity Remainers to denote remaining party to virtually all of the trappings of the EU, like the single market and customs union. This is a proposition which would be more aptly described as “non-Brexit” and Martin Howe QC’s piece yesterday nailing the myth of “soft Brexit” is essential reading if you haven’t read it already. ...
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostIf Labour had got in I'm sure you would've respected that and not complained people had made a stupid choice....
What I wouldn't have done is ponced about calling for a second election, because, like it or not there was a majority vote. That's called democracy.
Oh no I wouldn't...
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostThe clear decision for a common market.
There should have been a referendum on Maastricht. Though even if the UK had voted against, they would probably have been told to keep voting until the right answer was voted for.
The complaints I hear freedom of movement, too much money going to Brussels and they're stealing our fish all go back to 1975.
bring on the next referendum.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostYes but when everyone on here ridicules the man, why do they always trot this quote out?
If you think the man is a tit stop quoting him.
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostNothing wrong with referendums, it's what democracy is all about. I actually quite enjoy them and General elections
Before the referendum there was never ending moaning about Europe, in spite of the clear decision in 1975.
There should have been a referendum on Maastricht. Though even if the UK had voted against, they would probably have been told to keep voting until the right answer was voted for.
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Nothing wrong with referendums, it's what democracy is all about. I actually quite enjoy them and General elections
Before the referendum there was never ending moaning about Europe, in spite of the clear decision in 1975.
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Originally posted by Dark Black View PostNobody except for the 51.9% majority.... it's called democracy.. get over it.
Brexit is such a vast and complicated thing that there are really no definitive answers. A multi-year set of negotiations can easily reach the point that by the end, nobody wants what is agreed anymore. Equally each party (or even each MP) has their own vision for what Brexit should look like and what direction to push the negotiations in, so why should the version of Brexit we get come down to who is PM presiding over things.
The referendum left things rather trapped... maybe it should've asked "should we trigger Article 50". As it is the people have spoken and the politicians have agreed to follow them but by the time things are being finalised, that will be years in the past.
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