Mobile phone: business or personal?

[stphnstevey]

I read that as mobile phones now have much the same fuctions as some laptops, HMRC saw them as computers, which have different tax rules to mobiles

[pmeswani]

How are Blackberry's and PDA's (iPhone wanna be's) handled?

Unless you plan to use it as a s*x toy, or for the purposes other than making phone calls or other business activity, I don't see what it has to do with HMRC what handset you use.

[Mustang]

How are Blackberry's and PDA's (iPhone wanna be's) handled?

I would think the same way. I cant see them being handled by HMRC any differently.......but I am not an accountant!

[stphnstevey]

How are Blackberry's and PDA's (iPhone wanna be's) handled?

[expat]

If someone is an unsalaried director and comapny secretary, can a mobile phone be provided free of any BIK?

Also, does this include private use?

Finally! What about Blackberry's and PDA's?

What I said above: one company phone per employee. No phones to anybody who is not an employee, regardless of what else they might be. End of story.

[stphnstevey]

If someone is an unsalaried director and comapny secretary, can a mobile phone be provided free of any BIK?

Also, does this include private use?

Finally! What about Blackberry's and PDA's?

[TCL]

Appreciate the responses, many thanks

Decided in the end to just get it personally (i.e not through company)

The few ££ it might save per month would more than likely be swallowed up by my accountants time spent moaning about it.

[swamp]

No BIK on mobile phone for employees and directors, but must be a business phone/contract through your company.

[expat]

Hmm, not sure now, when you put it like that. What is the distinction?

She's co sec, registerd at Companies House etc. She gets paid a salary for her work for the company (preparing & sending invoices, money management etc - general admin I suppose) and she has a contract of employment. Its me that does the real work of the company (i.e the contracting for clientcos part)

Then she is an employee of the company.

What I meant was that it is irrelevant whether she is any of the other things, that some people do sometimes think qualifies. A Company Secretary who is not employed by the company (that is unusual but not impossible) does not qualify. A Company Secretary who is employed by the company does qualify, because she is employed (not actually because she is Co Sec).

[TCL]

love it

[Pickle2]

Hmm, not sure now, when you put it like that. What is the distinction?

She's co sec, registerd at Companies House etc. She gets paid a salary for her work for the company (preparing & sending invoices, money management etc - general admin I suppose) and she has a contract of employment. Its me that does the real work of the company (i.e the contracting for clientcos part)

Sounds ok to me. Stick it through the books, but then dock the amount from her salary post tax and use the cash to go to the pub. Double BOOMED!!

[TCL]

Hmm, not sure now, when you put it like that. What is the distinction?

She's co sec, registerd at Companies House etc. She gets paid a salary for her work for the company (preparing & sending invoices, money management etc - general admin I suppose) and she has a contract of employment. Its me that does the real work of the company (i.e the contracting for clientcos part)

[expat]

Thinking of buying a new mobile for the wife's Xmas...question is, would it be better to buy it business or personal? Wife is offical secretary of my ltdco

Can I do this legitimately? Tax/BIK implications? To be fair, its not likely to see much business use, more like yakking to her mates endlessley and texting GMTV at £1.50 a pop (grrr...!)

Any advice most welcome, thanks

A company can give one phone to an employee. Not a shareholder, not a company secretary, not a spouse, but an employee. Is she an employee?

[TCL]

Thinking of buying a new mobile for the wife's Xmas...question is, would it be better to buy it business or personal? Wife is offical secretary of my ltdco

Can I do this legitimately? Tax/BIK implications? To be fair, its not likely to see much business use, more like yakking to her mates endlessley and texting GMTV at £1.50 a pop (grrr...!)

Any advice most welcome, thanks