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Previously on "Can I buy silver VAT free and as a company asset?"

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  • andyc2000
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    Originally posted by Zero Liability View Post


    How do they manage that?
    Not really sure - something about certain coins in Estonia recognised as currency. I have had a couple of batches from them with no issues. My first shipment was a very small amount from a company based in Jersey and that was intercepted for VAT at customs.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Firstly what a rubbish first post from the OP.

    But second, what a load of contrived, meme drivel from the poster replying which i so wanted to point out, only to discover that it I can only 'thank', 'like' or 'report' the post, where what I wanted to to do was 'dislike' the facile response provided.

    Poor. Thumbs down.
    Please elaborate.....

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    I am assuming you have read articles like these...

    VAT Free Silver | Tax Free Silver | Buy Tax Free Silver | Buy VAT Free SilverBullion Price

    Do I have to pay VAT on my silver purchase? - The Real Asset Company

    Surely if you are going to be speculating on stuff like this you might have done a modicum of research first?

    I am hoping you have consulted with an IFA and your accountant first as well. Silver seems a tad volatile at the moment and you will be paying CT on the profits of it so doesn't look like a great idea to me at the moment.
    Firstly what a rubbish first post from the OP.

    But second, what a load of contrived, meme drivel from the poster replying which i so wanted to point out, only to discover that it I can only 'thank', 'like' or 'report' the post, where what I wanted to to do was 'dislike' the facile response provided.

    Poor. Thumbs down.
    Last edited by MarillionFan; 13 December 2014, 04:05.

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  • SpontaneousOrder
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    Originally posted by Zero Liability View Post
    The only way to avoid VAT on it I guess is to have it stored in Guernsey or Jersey, and I suppose if you went and collected it from there. At least with gold, if you buy gold sovereigns (at a slight premium over the spot price, c. 4 - 5%), these are presently exempt from the CGT, so if gold (for whatever reason, e.g. re-monetisation, divergence between paper & physical markets etc) did massively appreciate, you'd avoid any taxes on them, but this is not the case for silver coins. As others have stated, I wouldn't really see the benefit of putting them in a ltd company.




    How do they manage that?
    I got mine shipped from guernsey vat free. some got through, and some got intercepted at customs.

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  • Zero Liability
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    The only way to avoid VAT on it I guess is to have it stored in Guernsey or Jersey, and I suppose if you went and collected it from there. At least with gold, if you buy gold sovereigns (at a slight premium over the spot price, c. 4 - 5%), these are presently exempt from the CGT, so if gold (for whatever reason, e.g. re-monetisation, divergence between paper & physical markets etc) did massively appreciate, you'd avoid any taxes on them, but this is not the case for silver coins. As others have stated, I wouldn't really see the benefit of putting them in a ltd company.

    Originally posted by andyc2000 View Post
    Wide speculation on the future price of silver - most silver currently invested is 'on paper' only and doesn't exist in real life - you could describe it as a fiat currancy - not sure if that's pushed the price down but historically it's been 5:1 silver to gold, that may or may not return.

    There is a company based in the EU that will ship silver to you VAT free. Just look for a celtic gold type company not based in the Isle of Man.

    How do they manage that?

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  • SpontaneousOrder
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    If you buy it somewhere like Germany at 7% ish, and actually drive there to pick it up, then you can get away with paying the 7%. VAT treaty of some sort.

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  • SpontaneousOrder
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    I bought physical silver until the VAT man pinged me. I doubt you'll have much luck.

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  • Zero Liability
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    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
    Why do you want to buy Silver?

    Precious metals are in the midst of a vicious bear market.
    Bear markets are a good time to buy an asset, but I assume you mean it has much further to fall.

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  • andyc2000
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    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
    Why do you want to buy Silver?

    Precious metals are in the midst of a vicious bear market.
    Wide speculation on the future price of silver - most silver currently invested is 'on paper' only and doesn't exist in real life - you could describe it as a fiat currancy - not sure if that's pushed the price down but historically it's been 5:1 silver to gold, that may or may not return.

    There is a company based in the EU that will ship silver to you VAT free. Just look for a celtic gold type company not based in the Isle of Man.

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  • DonkeyRhubarb
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    Why do you want to buy Silver?

    Precious metals are in the midst of a vicious bear market.

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  • northernladuk
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    I am assuming you have read articles like these...

    VAT Free Silver | Tax Free Silver | Buy Tax Free Silver | Buy VAT Free SilverBullion Price

    Do I have to pay VAT on my silver purchase? - The Real Asset Company

    Surely if you are going to be speculating on stuff like this you might have done a modicum of research first?

    I am hoping you have consulted with an IFA and your accountant first as well. Silver seems a tad volatile at the moment and you will be paying CT on the profits of it so doesn't look like a great idea to me at the moment.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 12 December 2014, 14:44.

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  • TykeMerc
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    I'd have thought a trader in precious metals would know how to treat their VAT liabilities.

    Or is this nothing to do with your actual business? In which case how is it a business expense?
    On the FRS there's a minimum spend required before you reclaim VAT (on computer gear it's £2k) I don't know if there's any special treatment on silver.

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    Can I buy silver VAT free and as a company asset?

    Will they be stored next to your gold throne?

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  • FutureTimes
    started a topic Can I buy silver VAT free and as a company asset?

    Can I buy silver VAT free and as a company asset?

    Hi all. I have a limited company registered for VAT and flat rate VAT. I wan't to buy some physical silver VAT free. Is it ok to do so and store them as a company asset?
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