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Previously on "Letter - Cabinet Office requirements to confirm the tax arrangements of temp contract"
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They're in the business of making things up, like the judges who catch up with the rest of the world every 20 - 30 years in batches.
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I'm a "real" business, no really, my customers are members of the public, I have premises and employees etc
Last year's spend on advertising was approx £500 (most business is repeat or word of mouth/high street walk ins) so wtf do they get this arbitrary £1200 from?
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostSurely only a business can be investigated for IR35 so that should be a key differentiator between a contractor and a permie. Just being targeted for an IR35 investigation proves you are a business and you are in the clear? Sorted
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Thanks for all the comments. Will engage PCG & the accountant and see what they say
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Surely only a business can be investigated for IR35 so that should be a key differentiator between a contractor and a permie. Just being targeted for an IR35 investigation proves you are a business and you are in the clear? Sorted
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They don't use the test in selecting targets.
However, if you are subject to an enquiry and you can prove that you are 'low risk' they will close the case down and will not bother you for three years. See page 10 of this.
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostThey can't and they don't. It isn't a targeting tool, it's supposed to provide some measure of clarity for business owners (i.e. a self-assessment) based on how HMRC would like to see IR35 applied, and not the reality of IR35 case law, which applies to contracts in the first instance and not businesses.
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Originally posted by TheCyclingProgrammer View PostHah, almost identical to me then.
* Client risk test - all of my clients have been good payers so no points for me.
Score: 11 - medium risk.
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Originally posted by GazCol View PostI can't find a link but I'm pretty sure I read an article on here from QDOS stating it begins with a PAYE/VAT investigation and the BETs come in to play then - from your answers and supporting evidence a decision is made on whether or not to investigate your IR35 status.
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Originally posted by TheCyclingProgrammer View PostTrue, if I thought of it that way I'd certainly exceed the £1200 box.
One thing I've never understood is that if the BETs are supposed to indicator of your risk of investigation, how does that work exactly? We can take the BETs ourselves but how do HMRC know the answers to the questions? How can they use it as a way of targeting investigations? It seems like a lot of the questions would require an investigation in the first place in order for HMRC to get the answers.
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Originally posted by TheCyclingProgrammer View PostTrue, if I thought of it that way I'd certainly exceed the £1200 box.
One thing I've never understood is that if the BETs are supposed to indicator of your risk of investigation, how does that work exactly? We can take the BETs ourselves but how do HMRC know the answers to the questions? How can they use it as a way of targeting investigations? It seems like a lot of the questions would require an investigation in the first place in order for HMRC to get the answers.
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Originally posted by Jessica@WhiteFieldTax View PostHow long do you spend developing, maintaining and updating said web site, and whats your internal charge rate? Probably not hard to tick the £1,200 box when you look at it that way.
I agree though, the BET rules are almost meaningless.
One thing I've never understood is that if the BETs are supposed to indicator of your risk of investigation, how does that work exactly? We can take the BETs ourselves but how do HMRC know the answers to the questions? How can they use it as a way of targeting investigations? It seems like a lot of the questions would require an investigation in the first place in order for HMRC to get the answers.
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Originally posted by TheCyclingProgrammer View PostYes, but it only costs me about £360 a year in hosting fees. Not the arbitrary £1200 HMRC have come up with.
I agree though, the BET rules are almost meaningless.
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostI would get an IR35 friendly contract reviewed by Qdos, take the work, and allow my insurers / the PCG to fight out any investigation if it ever happened.
Or look to work in the public sector via a third party consultancy, which I've done before via Steria, Fujitsu and others - there's no restriction on rates or this kind of rubbish that way.
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