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To discuss the changes to PS contracts that are due later this year.

  1. Sticky Thread Sticky: Working in the public sector? An FAQ about IR35

    What's this all about then? In the 2016 Autumn Statement, the Chancellor confirmed that from the start of the following tax year (from April 6th 2017), the status of contractors / freelancers in the public sector would be assessed by the public sector body (PSB) engaging them either directly or...

    Started by TheFaQQer, 27th March 2017 08:42
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  2. Sticky Thread Sticky: PS & IR35: Choosing a legitimate Umbrella

    If you've come here looking for advice regarding umbrella companies here it is. Choose a company that complies with HMRC guidelines and current UK legislation*. You can find a selection here: Ask an Umbrella Company - All Umbrella Companies Are Equal Some companies will offer you the moon...

    Started by cojak, 16th January 2017 22:51
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  3. Sticky Thread Sticky: Public Sector or Not?

    Hi All Is there a list somewhere to identify which organisation falls under public sector? The reason for the question is I have been put forward by the agent to couple of organisation for new role. The agent did mention that it's not public sector but I don't want to take his word at face...

    Started by londonlad, 26th January 2017 16:30
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  1. HMRC status tool

    Hi, I have a client that supplies services to various NHS trusts. I have used the new HMRC tool to assess the position and it states that IR35 does not apply. I have also had advice on the contract as being outwith IR35 - thought everything was good. Some NHS trusts are fine with what has been...

    Started by concernedaccountant, 16th March 2017 14:33
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    16th March 2017 15:01 Go to last post
  2. New role declared inside

    Hi all I've been offered a new contract but it will be inside IR35 with a new company and new agency. The day rate is ok - obviously gonna take a hit on the pay a bit but beats time on the bench. Other than paying the extra tax, nics, umbrella company charges what are the complications...

    Started by philo, 16th March 2017 11:30
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    16th March 2017 12:20 Go to last post
  3. Can we start a list of PS orgs and their status?

    1, Carte Blanche IN decision no matter what 2, Flexible approach accepting contract and WP reviews 3, Reliant on the EES Tool? 4, A. N. Other

    Started by Semtex, 15th March 2017 22:18
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  4. Results of the public sector consultation is up First bit to note of interest (from page 6). So that's the FLC idea killed once and for all... ...

    Started by eek, 5th December 2016 13:58
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  5. New Contract with PS

    Hey guys, I've been following the discussions regarding the legislation changes closely on here after a PSB approached me directly. There are alot of threads out there about working through agencies or umbrellas but none for working directly for the PSB. Is there anything I should be aware...

    Started by deyceg, 15th March 2017 12:58
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  6. Capita/NWR Projects

    Evening folks, Are there any Capita/NWR contractors on here that have been given any direction of late?.. Same boat as many I guess, Been eating the daily soup of the day with a fork since the Autumn and all of a sudden Romes burning with 4 weeks to go! TIA

    Started by Kingman66, 22nd February 2017 22:46
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  7. Working through supplier to a public service/fix term contract

    Just been talking to some agents I have had the following two cases described to me for working for a public body 1. ITs part of a fixed price contract, therefore its not subject to IR35 2. Its working through a supplier to a public body, ie the suppler is supplying a service and I would be...

    Started by Bheleu, 14th March 2017 15:39
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  8. Agent - "It's that simple"

    Had a call from an agency about a PS gig. I'd rather wait until things are clearer on the IR35 thing before risking anything in the public sector, so told the agent as much and I wasn't interested. His response was that he'd enquire if it was in scope or not and if it wasn't, then I needn't...

    Started by FrontEnder, 22nd February 2017 12:19
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  9. Liability in case of wrong IR35 determinaton

    We all kind of assume/know that in case of HMRC callenging and winning an IR35 determination, the liability for any taxes/fines/interest will be with the paying link (agency, PSB). Where is this stated in any legislation?

    Started by pscont, 14th March 2017 11:47
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  10. Question Set-piece example of outside IR35

    A few days ago I used the IR35 ESS Tool and got an Outside IR35 decision. Today, I can't get a single permutation of responses that results in an outside IR35 decision. Maybe the software is broken. Maybe not. Is anyone out there able to provide a set of IR35 ESS Tool responses that...

    Started by BingoMan, 14th March 2017 11:08
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  11. IR35 PS - So anyone had the discussion yet?

    Those of us with some involvement with PS..... I've advised both agency and consultancy (who I work through at their PS client site) that something needs to be sorted. They've mentioned extension (luckily current one ends end Feb which is ideal) but I've said until its sorted its a no. ...

    Started by psychocandy, 24th January 2017 08:22
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  12. It's Not Fine -- Specific Flaws With the New IR35 Tool

    I know there are other threads running on the new tool, sorry for the duplication. This one is not intended for general discussion, but to just list specific problems that HMRC really should fix. If you add to what I've said in the comments, I'll add it to the list, if in my infinite and undying...

    Started by WordIsBond, 3rd March 2017 14:10
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  13. Best Option for 1 day/week public sector contract

    Hi all, I am entirely new to contracting, but have the option of a ~1 day per week (~£400 a week) contract supporting a government department. This is in addition to my normal PAYE employment. What is the best way to go about this? Ideally would like to minimise tax burden, but also want to...

    Started by orie1925, 13th March 2017 16:14
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  14. Payrolling through agency as sole trader for public sector company

    I've a contract with an organization that is deemed as a public sector company. I'm currently set up as a sole trader and able to offset business expenses as part of my self assessment. The company has gone for a risk adverse approach and are moving all contracts (Ltd and sole traders) through an...

    Started by Thomasina, 13th March 2017 10:19
    expenses, ir35, off payroll, sole trader
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  15. Question about subcontracting as a public sector contractor under new rules

    Hi, I'm working out how to satisfy substitution conditions (with it being such a big part of the new HMRC ESI tool). Strikes me that after April sub-contracting will no longer be a workable way to do that as it would make me a "paying agent" so liable to all the checks and penalties... so...

    Started by Effrafax of Wug, 12th March 2017 16:54
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  16. Is this true?

    Someone has just asked if what they've heard is accurate. I don't know if it is or not...

    Started by cojak, 10th March 2017 22:22
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  17. "HMRC will stand by the result given"

    "HMRC will stand by the result given unless a compliance check finds the information provided isnít accurate." Or not as the case may be..... Our friends at the revenue, clearly spooked by the amount of outside determinations being returned have been briefing NHS Finance Managers saying that...

    Started by Andy Hallett, 8th March 2017 15:38
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  18. Finishing 31st March, do I need an IR35 determination?

    My businesses contract ends on 31st March. The agency has said, so long as timesheets are in by then, they will get the money before 6th April. So am I right in thinking that the public sector body should not even be giving their decision on whether my business is in or out? I have 2 concerns...

    Started by willendure, 9th March 2017 15:58
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  19. Here we go...

    Business Analyst - City of Westminster - 10/03/2017 18:03:10 "IMPORTANT: THIS ROLE HAS BE DEEMED INSIDE IR35 SO YOU WILL NEED TO WORK ON AN UMBRELLA OR PAYE BASIS."

    Started by meanttobeworking, 10th March 2017 21:33
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  20. Appeal Process

    My client has yet to inform me of their verdict on the state of my contractual working if I am in or out of IR35. My concerns with all of this are because my contract is clearly outside of IR35, and has been reviewed and approved. However the people making this decision are in...

    Started by NetContractor, 9th March 2017 13:12
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