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    Contracting in Mons

    Evening All,

    I have been offered a contract in Mons for 6 months (extending up to 3 years), I've worked in Belgium before (3 month contract) and completed a LIMOSA declaration.

    My question is should I still be considering working throught my UK LTD or am I at risk of having to pay local taxes, seeing that I will probably hit the 183 day rule?

    Thanks for your help

    Garry

    #2
    There is no such thing as the 183 day rule for self-employed consultants (which is what we are if you remove the limited company we have to use in the UK).
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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      #3
      Originally posted by Garry73 View Post
      Evening All,

      I have been offered a contract in Mons for 6 months (extending up to 3 years), I've worked in Belgium before (3 month contract) and completed a LIMOSA declaration.

      My question is should I still be considering working throught my UK LTD or am I at risk of having to pay local taxes, seeing that I will probably hit the 183 day rule?

      Thanks for your help

      Garry
      56% tax from day one, bin it or double the rate.

      As Eek said there is no 183 day rule for the likes of us one-man company types, that's just for posed workers for IBM etc.

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        #4
        Originally posted by stek View Post
        56% tax from day one, bin it or double the rate.

        As Eek said there is no 183 day rule for the likes of us one-man company types, that's just for posed workers for IBM etc.
        Thanks, I've been reading a lot of other thread and sticky on this subject. It seems very complicated, so think I'm going to bin the contract and stay on the bench a bit longer.

        Can't afford to get this wrong

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          #5
          NATO roles pay sh1t. €400-500 per day isn't with the effort unless you live in Belgium or Luxembourg.
          I was an IPSE Consultative Council Member, until the BoD abolished it. I am not an IPSE Member, since they have no longer have any relevance to me, as an IT Contractor. Read my lips...I recommend QDOS for ALL your Insurance requirements (Contact me for a referral code).

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            #6
            So my understanding is that your a posted worker and my company has completed a LIMOSA

            By law you can only be taxed in one county, so I don't understand why my Ltd co would fall foul and be required to pay taxes in Belgium as well?

            There are plenty of people working in Belgium for the likes of NATO etc, they can't all be running at risk?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Garry73 View Post
              So my understanding is that your a posted worker and my company has completed a LIMOSA

              By law you can only be taxed in one county, so I don't understand why my Ltd co would fall foul and be required to pay taxes in Belgium as well?

              There are plenty of people working in Belgium for the likes of NATO etc, they can't all be running at risk?
              Because your company isn’t part of this contract regardless of what paperwork you and your agency create. It is you sat at a desk in Mons and all countries work on the basis that people pay tax where you work which in this case is Belgium and not the UK as you will not physically be in the uk.

              Or you can just take the gig pay tax in the uk and pay the rest of the money as tax in Belgium in 2 years time when their tax people catch up with you
              merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                #8
                Originally posted by Garry73 View Post
                So my understanding is that your a posted worker and my company has completed a LIMOSA

                By law you can only be taxed in one county, so I don't understand why my Ltd co would fall foul and be required to pay taxes in Belgium as well?

                There are plenty of people working in Belgium for the likes of NATO etc, they can't all be running at risk?
                A person/individual can be taxed in multiple countries and utilise dual tax agreements to minimise the tax they pay.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #9
                  This is very confusing as there is lots of conflicting information, I've just read the following from https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...n/index_en.htm

                  If you are posted abroad for a short assignment (up to 2 years), you will remain under your home country's social security system. However, the income earned during a posting abroad may be taxed in the host country.

                  When posted abroad by your company, you may not have to pay tax in the country where you work on the income you earn during your posting if:
                  • You stay abroad for less than 6 months in a year and
                  • Your salary is paid directly by your employer (at home), rather than by a branch or other company your employer has in the country where you work

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Garry73 View Post
                    • You stay abroad for less than 6 months in a year and
                    • Your salary is paid directly by your employer (at home), rather than by a branch or other company your employer has in the country where you work
                    And therein lies the challenge, as your PSC will be deemed to have a permanent establishment in Belgium under "a place of management". and therefore you fail that part of the test and your income is taxable in Belgium.

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