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IR35 determination - EY Confirm Tool

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  • GhostofTarbera
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    Originally posted by IndyWorker View Post
    I’ve recently went through the EY confirm tool. In truth it’s CEST in frilly knickers. The question language is exactly the same.

    Doesn’t seem to give immediate answer to the person completing the questionnaire instead goes to HR or even EY for checking.
    They then check who in EY can replace you before giving the answer


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  • IndyWorker
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    I’ve recently went through the EY confirm tool. In truth it’s CEST in frilly knickers. The question language is exactly the same.

    Doesn’t seem to give immediate answer to the person completing the questionnaire instead goes to HR or even EY for checking.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Hmmm. Sounds like QDOS is a false steer then.
    Yeah. It's definitely an EY product.

    Trying to get a look at it through back channels atm. Have strongly suggested they look at the QDOS tool as an alternative.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Hmmm. Sounds like QDOS is a false steer then.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    No particular insight but, for anyone that does know, I'd be curious about whether this assessment is personalised or "role based" and who is using the tool. If the former, and it's being run by QDOS, that's a good start. However, if it's simply a QDOS tool being completed by EY "status experts" or it's a role based assessment, then it's probably no better than CEST.
    From what I've seen it's down to the individual contractors to complete, although the wording isn't completely clear. It's described as a "software tool" provided by EY. No signs of anyone else being involved.

    I was hoping someone would have already used it and could give an indication of the kind of questions asked or information considered. If it includes MoO then it's a step up from the CEST.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    OK, anyone got any useful experience, bearing in mind this is one of the "professional" forums?
    No particular insight but, for anyone that does know, I'd be curious about whether this assessment is personalised or "role based" and who is using the tool. If the former, and it's being run by QDOS, that's a good start. However, if it's simply a QDOS tool being completed by EY "status experts" or it's a role based assessment, then it's probably no better than CEST.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
    Yes everyone is ruled inside, some people leave, leavers are replace by EY staff at double your rate


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    OK, anyone got any useful experience, bearing in mind this is one of the "professional" forums?

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  • GhostofTarbera
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    IR35 determination - EY Confirm Tool

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Just heard that Client Co. have been persuaded not to use CEST and are planning on using the EY Confirm tool

    Anyone had any experience with this since the OP?
    Yes everyone is ruled inside, some people leave, leavers are replace by EY staff at double your rate


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  • DaveB
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    Just heard that Client Co. have been persuaded not to use CEST and are planning on using the EY Confirm tool

    Anyone had any experience with this since the OP?

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  • eazy
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    Sector : Oil & Gas Engineering

    1. In which sector is your client? - Oil & Gas
    2. Presumably at this stage it is a contract review. Working practices to be considered, or factored in at all?
    Both Contract & working practices reviewed. The process is :
    - Role Review, Qdos questions answered by client project manager
    - Working practices review, 42 Qdos questions answered by Contractor

    3. What made your client consider at all the option of using anything But the CessPool? Am very encouraged that they are thinking outside the HMRC box.
    Client is dependant on flexible workforce as client has a long term engineering & operations support contract with their customer, however the client or the contractors don't have guaranteed work, hours can vary from 20 - 45 hours per week based on deadlines and approved hours for each project. Client needs the contractors for the fluctuating work load.


    I hear most of the Oil and Gas engineering companies are following the above approach. The Oil and Gas Operating companies are following or likely to follow the financial sector with no direct contractors next year.

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