Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[northernladuk]

Yea thats what I'm thinking - just the company are only doing this for a handful of contractors who are genuinely outside and they all seem to be chomping at the bit to stay on.

Maybe I'm either more clued up or less of risk taker.

That's because HMRC have got it right for a pocket of people

If they are so desperate to stay with a client why shouldn't they be permies. They certainly aren't acting like contractors hence the tax.

In relation to your break between going back I'd have to ask why. With all this crap going on wouldn't it be a better idea to start looking further afield.... Unless you have these niche skills that can only be used in a health care client for example. A general infrastructure PM wanting to stay just in PS at one client needs to wake-up and be a better contractor IMO. This should be the opportunity they need to take the leap and expand their horizons.

[perplexed]

Outside Public Sector at the moment.

Tempted to maybe look for some of the gigs people are leaving. Mercenary, sure... would be tempted to use umbrella and accept inside status ( still gives enough money to live off ), keep Ltd company for non-public sector work.

[northernladuk]

It's an option if you don't mind the lower rate. If it's local to home, tech you want to get in to etc then it's an option I guess. Just make sure you don't get pigeonholed and can't leave again.

[philo]

That's because HMRC have got it right for a pocket of people

If they are so desperate to stay with a client why shouldn't they be permies. They certainly aren't acting like contractors hence the tax.

In relation to your break between going back I'd have to ask why. With all this crap going on wouldn't it be a better idea to start looking further afield.... Unless you have these niche skills that can only be used in a health care client for example. A general infrastructure PM wanting to stay just in PS at one client needs to wake-up and be a better contractor IMO. This should be the opportunity they need to take the leap and expand their horizons.

I'd prefer a role elsewhere and ideally private sector to be honest as thats were I've always worked. Just don't want to be out of working for any time really say over 3 months - so would be difficult to turn down previous org if i was in the position.

[perplexed]

It's an option, if people are leaving in droves there could well be scope to push the rate up. Desperation and all that.

[northernladuk]

It's an option, if people are leaving in droves there could well be scope to push the rate up. Desperation and all that.

Hmm. Don't you think if that's on the table they would have done it to keep the existing resources on? Looking at these threads plenty will be staying on if they could get the same take home.

[perplexed]

Hmm. Don't you think if that's on the table they would have done it to keep the existing resources on? Looking at these threads plenty will be staying on if they could get the same take home.

Possibly.

No doubt many PSBs believed contractors would stay on and accept the hit out of the pride they have "serving the public"... maybe some viewed threats of contractors walking as just bluffs.

End of the day, when there's critical work to get done and they don't have the permie staff to complete it on time or to the highest quality, then something has to give.

[northernladuk]

Yep. And general consensus is the work. PS are not like private sector so don't expect many rich pickings after the fall out.

[perplexed]

Yep. And general consensus is the work. PS are not like private sector so don't expect many rich pickings after the fall out.

Agreed. Wouldn't expect squillions a day, but certainly enough to be happyish about.

Realistically, it's like most things. It's been handled in such a cack-handed way that I don't think anybody really knows the full extent of the damage caused.

PS orgs I've worked at in the past, well, their IT will grind to an utter halt. Give some of that work has been implementing changes in functionality due to changes in the law, with public facing sites where the information / implementation simply has to be accurate... I can see some could pay high in the short term to get things done. The alternative wouldn't be pallatable.

[Manwell Pablo]

Hmm. Don't you think if that's on the table they would have done it to keep the existing resources on? Looking at these threads plenty will be staying on if they could get the same take home.

This is correct, this is an option that was put to my current clients and was declined. (not by me might I add, the agent kindly did it without asking me, to me seems beyond cheeky)

Maybe the reality of the situation might make the re consider in a few weeks though.