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Except that judgment covers Channel Island law and has a few other idiosyncrasies to the extent it’s useful but not that the get out of jail card people here may wish it is.Originally posted by GregRickshaw View Post
Judging by shampoo's recent post you don't need it. Pretty brilliant post by shampoo.Last edited by eek; 2 June 2026, 15:19.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Am I missing something but the court of appeal was English (EWCA), so should apply to IOM trusts alsoComment
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Same same but different is what I think eek is saying.
I'm sure there's lots of commonality between it all, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a golden bullet, that's all.Comment
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Over the next week or so I’ll be posting a series of anonymised documents that I hope will be useful to others in this situation. They cover my journey from around 2010 to the present day.
I’ve put all original correspondence from Darwin, Felicitas/Gladstones, and West 28th Street through a detailed AI analysis — examining document content against both UK and Isle of Man law, and critically, the metadata embedded within each PDF. The process has been illuminating. There are a significant number of anomalies and contradictions in the documentation that simply do not reconcile — and in some cases appear to have no legitimate explanation whatsoever.
I now feel sufficiently confident in my findings to engage a solicitor locally, should enforcement action ever be taken against me. I’ll also be reporting the matter to Action Fraud and the FCA in due course.
I want to be clear — I’m not claiming this is a silver bullet, and we all have different circumstances and different documentation. But there may well be something in the material that improves your own position, or prompts you to look more critically at the documents you’ve been sent.
I’ll post everything in stages in due course.Comment
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I would be careful sharing everything on here, we do have 'visitors' passing throughOriginally posted by shampoo View PostOver the next week or so I’ll be posting a series of anonymised documents that I hope will be useful to others in this situation. They cover my journey from around 2010 to the present day.
I’ve put all original correspondence from Darwin, Felicitas/Gladstones, and West 28th Street through a detailed AI analysis — examining document content against both UK and Isle of Man law, and critically, the metadata embedded within each PDF. The process has been illuminating. There are a significant number of anomalies and contradictions in the documentation that simply do not reconcile — and in some cases appear to have no legitimate explanation whatsoever.
I now feel sufficiently confident in my findings to engage a solicitor locally, should enforcement action ever be taken against me. I’ll also be reporting the matter to Action Fraud and the FCA in due course.
I want to be clear — I’m not claiming this is a silver bullet, and we all have different circumstances and different documentation. But there may well be something in the material that improves your own position, or prompts you to look more critically at the documents you’ve been sent.
I’ll post everything in stages in due course.
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Another great post from shampoo and I was also interested in the quote "I now feel sufficiently confident in my findings to engage a solicitor locally". So another one choosing not to join the Elysium group action?
I'm of the same view. I've recently come across an old article published in Computer Weekly in November 2022 that referred to Elysium's case against Felicitas and W28. Link here: https://www.computerweekly.com/news/...ed%2C%20client
Some of the content still makes me wary of the motives behind this latest campaign from West 28 and Elysium. Especially:
1. Elysium Law requested a letter of claim from Felicitas, which responded with a lengthy letter of its own and 107,000 client documents. So how many actual clients?
2. Mediation with Felicitas took place on 12 November 2021 and the Elysium spokesperson stated “They outlined their claim and we outlined our defence and then Felicitas opted not to take it further. They dropped arms and stopped pursuing anybody”. So the Elysium defence apparently worked and you would think "job done"!?
3. 12 months later West 28th Street arrive on the scene and send out letters. "Brogelli and Gray said Elysium Law would be challenging West 28th Street’s attempts to recall these loans, while also working to resolve the matter on behalf of its clients for a final time, but it needs the support of more contractors who are being chased by the firm for loan repayments.." Final time? Why need more support? Surely Elysium just re-package the same defence they made for Felicitas the previous year!
I'll be sticking to my strategy to defend myself with the added bonus of having seen some great input from several others on this forum.Comment
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+1 - the file meta data tells us (and the court) that you’ve created it more recently to fit your new story tells us everything action fraud will need to know.Originally posted by Superfly View Post
I would be careful sharing everything on here, we do have 'visitors' passing through
I dont think posting much more in an open forum that is read will help.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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i'm with eek on this one.Originally posted by eek View Post
+1 - the file meta data tells us (and the court) that you’ve created it more recently to fit your new story tells us everything action fraud will need to know.
I dont think posting much more in an open forum that is read will help.
Don't voluntarily give something away that could potentially help W28 and Co in their efforts.Comment
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