Churchill Knight & Boox clients being investigated as Managed Service Companies

[GregRickshaw]

The amount on this latest NIC payments letter sent to my company (and me, as director) is almost as much as for all three years of regulation 80 determinations i have to pay personally. This amounts just keep on adding up left and right. Few more letters and i will have to pay more than my company actually earned as gross income in all these three years. Anxiety is getting real now.

We hear you, this is a particularly horrible assault on individuals who really thought they were doing the correct thing by having LTD companies. This is a way worse state of affairs than the loan charge IMHO as those of us who were in those did probably realise it was a bit 'fishy'

Anyway it may help you to remember, you SHOULD get all your CT and DT back if you are finally declared a MSC (which I fully expect we will), so you will end up paying just the Employers NIC (quite hefty for sure) and not the PAYE determinations.

You don't have to pay personally [sic] at this point it's a company debt the NIC has been sent to you because you are the director of the company, it's an Employers NIC and you are the employer.

You of course may end up having to pay it personally as the debt transfer on this one is utterly brutal

[jamesbrown]

The amount on this latest NIC payments letter sent to my company (and me, as director) is almost as much as for all three years of regulation 80 determinations i have to pay personally. This amounts just keep on adding up left and right. Few more letters and i will have to pay more than my company actually earned as gross income in all these three years. Anxiety is getting real now.

The numbers will be a fairy story at this stage. If possible, try not to focus on those and put your efforts into preparing/evidencing your situation.

[gikap]

The amount on this latest NIC payments letter sent to my company (and me, as director) is almost as much as for all three years of regulation 80 determinations i have to pay personally. This amounts just keep on adding up left and right. Few more letters and i will have to pay more than my company actually earned as gross income in all these three years. Anxiety is getting real now.

[Guy Incognito]

Ah ok - I never got that one.

[yama]

I am confused. What letter have you had addressed to you personally?

The NI letter (Notice of Decision) is sent to the company.

It literally says you need to appeal within 30 days. So no you should not ignore it. You should appeal within 30 days.

The exact same NI (Notice of Decision) letter was sent to me personally as well as to the company. The one sent to the company has been appealed, but I imagine I don't have to appeal the one sent to me personally separately as an individual?

[Guy Incognito]

I'll likely appeal through David Kirk again once the letter addressed to the company arrives. But I guess these NI letters addressed to me (the individual) only and not the company can be ignored?

I am confused. What letter have you had addressed to you personally?

The NI letter (Notice of Decision) is sent to the company.

It literally says you need to appeal within 30 days. So no you should not ignore it. You should appeal within 30 days.

[yama]

I'll likely appeal through David Kirk again once the letter addressed to the company arrives. But I guess these NI letters addressed to me (the individual) only and not the company can be ignored?

[gikap]

Boox actually sent me a template to appeal against latest determination and NIC payment letters from HMRC, on a weekend, only 2 days after i notified them about these latest letters.

[gikap]

I have also just received the National Insurance letter addressed to me, the individual, not the company. Am I right in thinking this letter addressed to me (the individual) can be ignored, but the one which will (in the coming days I imagine) be sent to the company will need to be appealed?

looks like i am in the same situation. received NI letters to myself and my company together with new determinations and it looks now i will have to appeal to all, to NI letter and 2018/19 and 2019/20 determinations.

[yama]

I have also just received the National Insurance letter addressed to me, the individual, not the company. Am I right in thinking this letter addressed to me (the individual) can be ignored, but the one which will (in the coming days I imagine) be sent to the company will need to be appealed?