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Loan charge - review outcomes - impact on settlement
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Originally posted by Boodog View PostThen what? Don’t settle, don’t pay loan charge and attempt litigation? Or is it game over?
The worry is that many simply cannot pay. Especially those going back many years.
The document say there have been many attempts to close schemes down. Or at least that many warnings were given. Who reads government documents? Why is there no emphasis on HMRC closing down these schemes earlier?
The report smells badly.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by GammaMadrid View PostAfter NTRT lost, apart from TAA, then no.
It will take much more than LCAG to stand any chance against HMRC.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by Dmac View PostAnyone genuinely surprised by that?
It will take much more than LCAG to stand any chance against HMRC.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by GammaMadrid View PostShould this be in a thread of its own? Effectively, HM Treasury has ignored APPG/LCAG and backed HMRC.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by Iliketax View PostLeave a comment:
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Originally posted by TheUnseen View PostThanks for the response webberg,
I'm pleased that HMRC should provide proof and I have asked for this from them.
I guess I am deeply suspicious of HMRC's aggressive approach to the loan charge, particularly since Mel Stride's recent snub of LC review. It seems to me that it would be convenient if people who were in schemes that are many years old now, had open years, just in case HMRC find themselves not able to apply the LC on closed years. Probably me being cynical!
I think the test of this would be if other people in the same position (open years without any notification) responded in this thread. As they haven't I can only assume it is a mistake.Leave a comment:
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Thanks for the response webberg,
I'm pleased that HMRC should provide proof and I have asked for this from them.
I guess I am deeply suspicious of HMRC's aggressive approach to the loan charge, particularly since Mel Stride's recent snub of LC review. It seems to me that it would be convenient if people who were in schemes that are many years old now, had open years, just in case HMRC find themselves not able to apply the LC on closed years. Probably me being cynical!
I think the test of this would be if other people in the same position (open years without any notification) responded in this thread. As they haven't I can only assume it is a mistake.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by TheUnseen View PostI too have had HMRC say that some of my years are open when I have never received any letter telling me words to that effect.
Is there anyway I can prove that they were closed?
Surely, this is a fraudulent move on behalf of HMRC?
Various cases have held that a simple statement from HMRC is not enough, nor is a generic "everybody involved had an assessment". The evidence needs to be specific and real.
You cannot prove they were closed, but you can show that the years were never open.
Be careful about using words like "fraudulent". That implies a deliberate act by a person or group of persons designed to extract money from another.
Are you suggesting that HMRC (60,000 or more people) are deliberately conspiring to extract money from you, outside the terms of the taxes acts and that ALL of these people are "in" on that?
I suggest it's more likely that some overworked, under compensated junior level employee has failed to check properly and/or misinterpreted the data.
More cock up than conspiracy.Leave a comment:
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