Now it emerges that the World Wars were fought in vain ....

[Mich the Tester]

There is about to be a neccessarily huge influx of immigration into Germany* as the population declines precipitously - this will make immigration to the UK under Labour look like a drop in the ocean.
Time will tell what effect this has on the Germany economy and society.


*or German companies will move to where there is labour, or both.

There already is quite a lot of immigration getting started from Italy, Greece and Spain, particularly young, trained or educated people who can't find jobs back home. Precisely the kind of people that most of Europe's going to be fighting over before long, but that most of Europe hasn't realised it's going to need. Remember that Germany has absorbed a lot of people from those countries relatively succesfully in the past and can probably do so again.

[sasguru]

There already is quite a lot of immigration getting started from Italy, Greece and Spain, particularly young, trained or educated people who can't find jobs back home. Precisely the kind of people that most of Europe's going to be fighting over before long, but that most of Europe hasn't realised it's going to need. Remember that Germany has absorbed a lot of people from those countries relatively succesfully in the past and can probably do so again.

I don't think most of Europe is going to be fighting over them anytime soon, what are Greece and Portugal going to do with highly-trained grads when they have depression level economies - caused by German policy?
I don't suppose the Meds enjoy being in dull areas of rural Germany, but needs must.
Thing is outside of a handful of cities, Germany is fooking dull as ditchwater. i know from experience.

[AtW]

I am planning to buy a German car, that'll show 'em!!!

[Mich the Tester]

I don't think most of Europe is going to be fighting over them anytime soon, what are Greece and Portugal going to do with highly-trained grads when they have depression level economies - caused by German policy?
I don't suppose the Meds enjoy being in dull areas of rural Germany, but needs must.
Thing is outside of a handful of cities, Germany is fooking dull as ditchwater. i know from experience.

Outside of a handful of cities and a few bits of spectacular scenery, most of the world can be a bit dull. But Koblenz, Köln and Hamburg are pretty good places really. Berlin's exciting, but very brash and a bit rough, Frankfurt is full of bankers, OK if your like that kind of thing, München's a bit touristy, Stuttgart's not bad at all. I'd choose Koblenz, probably for the climate and the vineyards.

[Mich the Tester]

I am planning to buy a German car, that'll show 'em!!!

Is that your girlfriend in the back?

[sasguru]

Outside of a handful of cities and a few bits of spectacular scenery, most of the world can be a bit dull. But Koblenz, Köln and Hamburg are pretty good places really. Berlin's exciting, but very brash and a bit rough, Frankfurt is full of bankers, OK if your like that kind of thing, München's a bit touristy, Stuttgart's not bad at all. I'd choose Koblenz, probably for the climate and the vineyards.

Not one is a patch on London. That's why all the rich people come here.
Berlin is the city I know the best but it feels provincial. Cologne is OK.
Problem is Germans are dull really, if you are used to a more cosmopolitan milieu.
Stereotypes get created for a reason, the dull but worthy, unspontaneous German is a truism.

[Mich the Tester]

I bought a "German" car.

It was made in Spain and I did 105k in it.

The German car, built in Germany was a grade A piece of crap & didn't do 10k.

YMMV

I have had a French car, several Italian cars, a couple of German cars and one British car. The French car is a mistake I'd rather forget. The German cars were very good and Lady Tester still drives one and it sort of fits her Germanic looks and style. The Italian cars were great fun, beautiful to look at but crap. The British car is actually the best I've owned up to now.

[suityou01]

I have had a French car, several Italian cars, a couple of German cars and one British car. The French car is a mistake I'd rather forget. The German cars were very good and Lady Tester still drives one and it sort of fits her Germanic looks and style. The Italian cars were great fun, beautiful to look at but crap. The British car is actually the best I've owned up to now.

[shaunbhoy]

Thing is outside of a handful of cities, Germany is fooking dull as ditchwater. i know from experience.

You being as dull as ditchwater on a daily basis.

[Mich the Tester]

, no not quite. I'll leave that one for you.