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ULTRA-DOOM!!! Italy's 10 year bond rate breaches 7%

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    #31
    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    It's not like the whole debt pile just became 7.4% FFS.
    If Italy issue new 10 year bonds to borrow money they will have to pay a coupon rate of 7.4%.

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      #32
      Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
      Just hit 9%.

      Dominos now offering 2 for 1 and a free bottle of coke!
      Crikey - Sounds like the balloon's really going up now.

      You can't claim we're not living in interesting times.
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        #33
        Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
        Crikey - Sounds like the balloon's really going up now.

        You can't claim we're not living in interesting times.
        No its at 7.4, MF got mixed up.

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          #34
          Originally posted by russell View Post
          No its at 7.4, MF got mixed up.
          It was a fricking joke about Domino's you dull sockie.

          I haven't even looked at the bond rate.

          Jesus.
          What happens in General, stays in General.
          You know what they say about assumptions!

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            #35
            Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
            It was a fricking joke about Domino's you dull sockie.

            I haven't even looked at the bond rate.

            Jesus.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tensai View Post
              Yesterday the consensus was that Italy would be screwed if yields reach 7%... which they have done today.

              "With Italian yields now at 7.4% (at 11am), Italy will need a bailout if prices were to stay even roughly were they are."... until when?

              But is there a critical date which will crystalise the problem, e.g. a rollover date on debt repayments or something like that?
              Italy's sovereign debt has a fairly short maturity profile - they have to roll over 310 bn during 2012.
              "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s the s*** that happens while you’re waiting for moments that never come." -- Lester Freamon

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                #37
                Originally posted by Freamon View Post
                Italy's sovereign debt has a fairly short maturity profile - they have to roll over 310 bn during 2012.
                And given a spread of 4% compared to what it was - that means an extra 12Bn interest per year alone - and that's just for the debt that has to be rolled over in the next year.

                For comparison purposes, raising VAT by 2.5% in the UK is expected to generate about 12Bn.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Freamon View Post
                  Italy's sovereign debt has a fairly short maturity profile - they have to roll over 310 bn during 2012.
                  But isn't alot of it held by (Italian) private individuals rather than banks? Will they stay loyal?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                    But isn't alot of it held by (Italian) private individuals rather than banks? Will they stay loyal?
                    Lots of Italians have already started moving their savings abroad.
                    "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s the s*** that happens while you’re waiting for moments that never come." -- Lester Freamon

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