James Bulger’s mother: Unmask my son's killers

[minestrone]

It is a very simple argument for churchill with his simple mind, murder == hanging == 10 year olds on the gallow.

I don't want to see 10 year kids murdering 4 year kids but I am stronger on the opinion that this country should not be hanging 10 year kids. We have a democracy churchill and your extremist points of view thankfully get drowned out at the election booth.

[minestrone]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...in-thread.html

Calling each other halfwits and morons isn't conducive to serious debate generally.

Point taken.

Emotive subject.

See you all in a couple of days

[EternalOptimist]

Only God knows the rights and wrongs of something like this. I think as a society, we should have done our best to arrange the meeting

[PRC1964]

If they're doli incapax, which by any reckoning the killers were at the time, then it's down to the parents or guardians.

I'd certainly have jailed their parents for several years, to deter others from neglecting their children.

It's an interesting idea. There are a number of adults who must bear some responsibility for what happened. Primary school children should not be able to skip school, and two year olds should not be unattended.

[Lockhouse]

Are you seriously advocating that we should blame their parents?

Not blame them, just that it's likely upbringing is a contributing factor.

[wobbegong]

As I parent myself, I think the parents of the killers have to take most of the blame. You've definitely failed at something if your kids come out like this.

No, sorry, I can't agree with that as a generalisation. Mrs. W works with Asberger syndrome and autistic kids. One day thay can be nice as pie, helpful, polite, affectionate, interested, and the next day, violent, uncommunicative, unpredicatable, antisocial, foul-mouthed and disruptive. Neither days behaviour can be attributed to the parental upbringing, or even social influences.

[doodab]

No, sorry, I can't agree with that as a generalisation. Mrs. W works with Asberger syndrome and autistic kids. One day thay can be nice as pie, helpful, polite, affectionate, interested, and the next day, violent, uncommunicative, unpredicatable, antisocial, foul-mouthed and disruptive. Neither days behaviour can be attributed to the parental upbringing, or even social influences.

Who said it was a generalisation? That's a bit of a special case, and these kids weren't autistic AFAIK.

[wobbegong]

That's a bit of a special case though.

True, but there are a lot of 'special cases'. A lot of mental conditions that affect behaviour that aren't neccessarily recognised as 'syndromes' or 'conditions' yet.

[doodab]

True, but there are a lot of 'special cases'. A lot of mental conditions that affect behaviour that aren't neccessarily recognised as 'syndromes' or 'conditions' yet.

Such as?

[MarillionFan]

True, but there are a lot of 'special cases'. A lot of mental conditions that affect behaviour that aren't neccessarily recognised as 'syndromes' or 'conditions' yet.

Like Attention Deficit Disorder, which is really a term defined by bedwetters and lefties to get out of the fact they've failed as parents and what their kids really need is a bloody good hiding and some boundaries.

That what you mean?