To those who don't believe AGW is real

[TimberWolf]

What is long term in global temp frame of reference then?

What's your favourite time-scale? Each side seem to have theirs.

[tay]

I was asking for Nicks.

[shaunbhoy]

What were you doing on the day of the course in basic logic - playing frisbee?

Where the fook does "logic" come into "My hypothetical computer projections are better than yours", birdbrain? That is all that various groups of "scientists" are currently doing.
Try thinking for yourself for a change. Get someone to read you "The Emperor's Clothes" as a bedtime story before they sedate you tonight also.
It might kick start something for you.

[sasguru]

So to summarise the discussion so far:

Not one of the sceptics has refuted the basic argument:

Most scientists believe there is a connection between increased CO2 emissions and the long term global rise in temperature

I hereby declare this thread closed. Once again the forces of cretinism and vacuity have been slaughtered by the light sabre of reason and intellect.

I thenk you!

[DimPrawn]

So to summarise the discussion so far:

Not one of the sceptics has refuted the basic argument:

Most scientists believe there is a connection between increased CO2 emissions and the long term global rise in temperature

Oh, it's just clicked. The penny has dropped. I see it now.

The CO2 produced by man in the last 100 years hasn't made and short or medium term change, only long term. So me driving a V8 will* change the climate in 10,000 years time. Well, that is a worry isn't it?

* may do, might happen, who knows.

[sasguru]

Oh, it's just clicked. The penny has dropped. I see it now.

The CO2 produced by man in the last 100 years hasn't made and short or medium term change, only long term. So me driving a V8 will* change the climate in 10,000 years time. Well, that is a worry isn't it?

* may do, might happen, who knows.

Do you have children? It will affect them. That's what I mean by long term.

[tay]

Still wanting a definition of 'long term' in climate context. I assume if all these scientists got together and agreed, they must have defined longterm? When does this longterm start? When does it end?

[tay]

Do you have children? It will affect them. That's what I mean by long term.

ahh excellent... so you mean 0-100 years is long term?

[sasguru]

Where the fook does "logic" come ...

Well may you ask. In your case never.

[sasguru]

ahh excellent... so you mean 0-100 years is long term?

Have a look at the NASA graphs - the upward trend shows many jagged localised points, but we are talking generations not evolutionary periods.