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[Not So Wise]

I see the guilt ridden liberals are more worried about what the police are doing than what the terrorists are doing. It transpires dear "Bob" that this Brazilian had overstayed his visa. OK so a Brazilian "gets it", I feel much safer knowing that there are police out on the streets who are prepared to act rather than pander to politically correct liberal attitudes.

You might, but i would not if i was more tanned and wearing a heavy coat

[AtW]

You might, but i would not if i was more tanned and wearing a heavy coat

and live in the house suspected of where terrorists live, and refusing to stop when asked, and jumping over ticket barriers and trying to escape -- if you want to do it, then be prepared to get shot.

Otherwise stop as instructed by the police and after quick check you will be let go live your life: like the guy with racksack in front of whitehall last Thu -- he did what he was told and kept his life.

[Ardesco]

Don't forget the fact that he didn't pay for his ticket either.

There's a lesson to you ticket evaders, buy a ticket, your life may depend upon it!!!!

[Not So Wise]

and live in the house suspected of where terrorists live,

You mean apartment building, don't know about you but i don't have a clue what any of my neibours are up to.

and refusing to stop when asked, and jumping over ticket barriers and trying to escape

If you read the BBC website you will see they did not demand he stop till
after he jumped the barrier, basiclly he was fare dodgeing, knew penalty fares were going up..but death sentences???

[AtW]

If you read the BBC website you will see they did not demand he stop till after he jumped the barrier, basiclly he was fare dodgeing, knew penalty fares were going up..but death sentences???

I did not see that he jumped over before he was told to stop, suppose he thought that he was chased by the revenue protection people and did not look back to see they got guns.

A darwin awards winner 2005.

[sappatz]

police

the british police was not only in civilian clothes but they pumped EIGHT SHOTS in the head.

this is massacre with a big M. you kill someone with one shot in the head. It means the guys lost control of themselves, they almost emptied the full charger

[Paco]

the british police was not only in civilian clothes but they pumped EIGHT SHOTS in the head.

this is massacre with a big M. you kill someone with one shot in the head. It means the guys lost control of themselves, they almost emptied the full charger

Why are people so hung up on the number of shots fired? The police decided, rightly or wrongly, that he needed to be killed and that was the end result. If I was in that position and I wanted to be sure that he was dead and therefore incapable of detonating his (supposed) bomb then I think I would do the same to remove any doubt.

Of course not. It is crucial though that you failed to mention this suspect had been physically caught and restrained before he was shot umpteen times.

That's because you see them as two separate events and I don't. I'm imagining two coppers jumping him and a third doing the shooting almost immediately, before the suspect got chance to go boom. As neither of us was there that's probably all there is to be said on this.

[Not So Wise]

Why are people so hung up on the number of shots fired?

Simple, One shot, possibly 2 shots, if you are really leanient 3 shots (though is pushing it) would be indication of a shooter in control doing that is nessary to stop someone.

8 shots, 7 to head and one to body (thought was meant to be advoiding body in case of bomb?) fired from point blank range by an expert marksman at a target being restrained by two other police officers smells like someone out of control and panicking.

Like think about it, 7 shots to head at point blank range, i would definatly say that is a closed casket, guys head must be mush.

To give another situation, big guy attacks little guy, little guy has a knife.
He stabbs big guy (maybe even 2/3 times) to defend himself
Reasonable Self defence i think we would agree no?

Now what is he stabbed him say..36 times?
Most courts in Europe or USA would give him manslaughter at least, and that would be to an untrained, non professional where as in the case with the shooting we are meant to have highly trained professionals, thus should be even less forgiving.

To me and many others this is very much an indication of out of control armed police with an indescriminate licence to kill.

Remember the only "evidence" before the shooting against this guy was:
He lived in an apartment block that was under surveillance (same as god only know how many other people)
Wore a unseasonably heavy jacket (see load of people like this on tube every day)
Was a fare dodger

I find it highly disturbing that so many people are so frightened of the terrorists that they have no problem with the above list equalling a death sentence .

Bet the terrorists will be pleased though

[BobTheCrate]

That's because you see them as two separate events and I don't.

Not quite.

I reserve judgement that they 'may' have been two events. Whilst you adamantly refuse to accept that possibility.

Because if they were 2 events that suggests this suspect was not killed as a last resort.

[PerlOfWisdom]

What difference does it make if he was killed by one bullet or a hundred - are you worried about the cost to the taxpayer?