Oh Dear: Is there any other country in Europe where this would cause outrage ?

[Old Greg]

Maybe it's in the document, but where does 4.7 come from?

4.7 is the birthrate of couples where the man is a British Pakistani and the woman is born in Pakistan. I forget the source but I think it is a reputable official statistic (from 2001 I think?)

[sasguru]

Is that true of the UK? I'd say our immigrant population is very different to that of countries with a policy based on skills shortage e.g. USA. Australia, Canada

USA - Mexican-Hispanic immigrants
Canada - very similar immigrant profile, I was surprised to hear and a much higher proportion.

[Causus Deli]

Old Greg, Let's deal with 3 children per Asian Family (knowing that the growth in Muslim numbers will be greater and Hindu less). Less than 5 generations is the answer, I have presented this before, how we get there is immaterial. Your statistics have mathematical errors in them imho (see how easy it is not to use a false word = lie).

The bottom line is that even under a whole range of conservative assumptions that I have made the population is going to change dramatically as predicted by Mr Enoch Powel. In less than 5 generations that is ladies and gents, and the message is simple - DON'T LET IT. There is little point in doing further extensive work, we could do by country of origin and that would eliminate some assumptions but there will always be contentions.

We agree folks that unless something changes, in less than 5 generations we will be a majority Asian origin state. So let’s make sure we change it fast because it’s going to happen if we don’t make big changes. My advice is it is too late and unless you wish to be dominated by backward thinking then ensure your progeny are prepared for it. Ensure they tell their offspring to be ready for the theocracy.

I think my work is done, it was fun and enlightening, yes I’m a raving fascist, homophobic hater if you desire convenience. Only time will tell, but in the meantime it is everyman’s duty to do what he feels is best. I have nothing against other people; I defy anyone to find anything of that nature in my words. I have no problem with people making a better life for themselves, but I know most people would agree that it should not be at their expense

[oraclesmith]

I had a girlfriend I called 'poodle', but I don't think she ever quite understood why.

[sasguru]

Old Greg, Let's deal with 3 children per Asian Family (knowing that the growth in Muslim numbers will be greater and Hindu less). Less than 5 generations is the answer, I have presented this before, how we get there is immaterial. Your statistics have mathematical errors in them imho (see how easy it is not to use a false word = lie).

The bottom line is that even under a whole range of conservative assumptions that I have made the population is going to change dramatically as predicted by Mr Enoch Powel. In less than 5 generations that is ladies and gents, and the message is simple - DON'T LET IT. There is little point in doing further extensive work, we could do by country of origin and that would eliminate some assumptions but there will always be contentions.

We agree folks that unless something changes, in less than 5 generations we will be a majority Asian origin state. So let’s make sure we change it fast because it’s going to happen if we don’t make big changes. My advice is it is too late and unless you wish to be dominated by backward thinking then ensure your progeny are prepared for it. Ensure they tell their offspring to be ready for the theocracy.

I think my work is done, it was fun and enlightening, yes I’m a raving fascist, homophobic hater if you desire convenience. Only time will tell, but in the meantime it is everyman’s duty to do what he feels is best. I have nothing against other people; I defy anyone to find anything of that nature in my words. I have no problem with people making a better life for themselves, but I know most people would agree that it should not be at their expense

So to summarise:

1) You claim to be a Professor of Maths - let the esteemed forum decide
2) You have presented a simple, childish model that purports to project the proportion of ethnic minorities in 5 generations. Due to the skewed numbers and naive assumptions, this model would fail a GCSE (or old CSE) coursework Maths module.
3) You have been arrogant, overbearing, pompous and refused to answer simple questions related to your so-called model.

Yes you are right, your work is done. I suggest you get a job (though not in any numerate field) and try and contribute something useful to society.

[wendigo100]

Old Greg, do you have spare time to do any work?

[Old Greg]

Old Greg, do you have spare time to do any work?

No

[Old Greg]

Old Greg, Let's deal with 3 children per Asian Family (knowing that the growth in Muslim numbers will be greater and Hindu less). Less than 5 generations is the answer, I have presented this before, how we get there is immaterial. Your statistics have mathematical errors in them imho (see how easy it is not to use a false word = lie).

The bottom line is that even under a whole range of conservative assumptions that I have made the population is going to change dramatically as predicted by Mr Enoch Powel. In less than 5 generations that is ladies and gents, and the message is simple - DON'T LET IT. There is little point in doing further extensive work, we could do by country of origin and that would eliminate some assumptions but there will always be contentions.

We agree folks that unless something changes, in less than 5 generations we will be a majority Asian origin state. So let’s make sure we change it fast because it’s going to happen if we don’t make big changes. My advice is it is too late and unless you wish to be dominated by backward thinking then ensure your progeny are prepared for it. Ensure they tell their offspring to be ready for the theocracy.

I think my work is done, it was fun and enlightening, yes I’m a raving fascist, homophobic hater if you desire convenience. Only time will tell, but in the meantime it is everyman’s duty to do what he feels is best. I have nothing against other people; I defy anyone to find anything of that nature in my words. I have no problem with people making a better life for themselves, but I know most people would agree that it should not be at their expense

3 times I have shown up your errors / lies - you suggest there are errors (and I said there might be) in my sums but you don't show them or defend my detailed critique of yours. Particularly the way you applied a figure for women from ISC marrying British ISC Asians, to women and men from ISC marrying British ISC Asians. And then applied that to all Asians, not just those from ISC.

Less than 5 generations is only the answer if you apply exponentials and assume that birthrates do not change - you have not backed that up, and I have shown how quickly they do change. Have a look at the properly researched paper I linked to if you want to undertand an academic approach to population modelling.

How we get there is not immaterial - it suggets that you cannot be trusted.

Next - there are no 'conservative assumptions'. I've shown why.

We don't have to make big changes - immigrant populations' birthrate will, IMO, reduce soon enough.

As for being dominated by 'backward thinking', people can make up their own minds where they might find examples of that. Me, I'll get on with my own life (and my work) and let people get on with theirs. I've got Muslim friends and colleagues, and have lived in areas with large Muslim popultations, and I find most people are pretty much decent people who want to be part of the society they find themselves in.

What scares me is the fascist state you and your sort would bring in, under the cover of a hyped up prediction of theocracy.

[Stan]

The bottom line is that even under a whole range of conservative assumptions that I have made the population is going to change dramatically as predicted by Mr Enoch Powel.

LOL!! Cassus saying Enoch Powell was right, well that really does show how totally deluded he is, I recommend you all actually read Enoch's speech at http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vo...ep-rivers.html
while bearing in mind he said this in 1968, we should have been totally overrun by what he calls "Negroes" by now.

But still "Enoch was right" is a familiar cry from BNPers and the like, they even have a badge.

Slogan: "Enoch was right"


In the United Kingdom, particularly in England, "Enoch was right" is a phrase of political rhetoric, employed generally by the far right, inviting comparison of aspects of contemporary English society with predictions made by Powell in the Rivers of Blood speech. The phrase implies criticism of immigration and multiculturalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_P...f_Blood_speech

We are just pointing out the problems with your posts which are filled with right wing hate. I have been a moderator and then an admin of a bigger site forum than this and we would have banned you long before now.

If I had any say in the running of this forum I would be very worried about how a forum supposedly for professionals (many who might read and maybe post from work) is becoming full of offensive content that would get you fired from most offices if you said it out loud. At some point webscanners will start blocking it and the professionals will have had enough and go elsewhere.

[DodgyAgent]

LOL!! Cassus saying Enoch Powell was right, well that really does show how totally deluded he is, I recommend you all actually read Enoch's speech at http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vo...ep-rivers.html
while bearing in mind he said this in 1968, we should have been totally overrun by what he calls "Negroes" by now.

But still "Enoch was right" is a familiar cry from BNPers and the like, they even have a badge.




We are just pointing out the problems with your posts which are filled with right wing hate. I have been a moderator and then an admin of a bigger site forum than this and we would have banned you long before now.

If I had any say in the running of this forum I would be very worried about how a forum supposedly for professionals (many who might read and maybe post from work) is becoming full of offensive content that would get you fired from most offices if you said it out loud. At some point webscanners will start blocking it and the professionals will have had enough and go elsewhere.

Did Enoch put a timescale on his views? It worries me when people righteously proclaim things such as "I have been a moderator and then admin of a bigger site". These sort of people resort to a level of self righteousness simply because they have nothing logical or reasonable to offer in a debate.

Causus Delhi is beginning to grow on me.