Oh Dear: Is there any other country in Europe where this would cause outrage ?

[Causus Deli]

But you haven't made the point. The evidence suggests that birth rates among immigrants fall close to the norm relatively quickly - which implies that the the indigenous population will never be a minority.

I suggest you get a simulation program on the case before you say never. Try X and X+0.1 as breeding rates and see if you get to infinity before my assertion is met. If you wish you can put in 200 thousand Asians and 200 million caucasians. I believe SAS is powerful enough to solve this little conundrum in a few seconds.

[Old Greg]

Look you chose some houshold data to pin your flag on, I showed this was a nonsense. You did not source yours as I diodn't mine. As I say office of stats just ain't good enough and if you had been a regular visitor you will know just how complicated it is to find the data and once found to ensure they are not biased by recording methods. So where is this overwhelming proof oh nonsense follower?

Now the Indian birthrate (educated) is lower but the Other Asians do not want education they want their own state with their own language and laws. The unemployment rate amongst Indians is comparable with whites but that of Muslims (generalisation) is 3 times that of whites. They don't try in general.

Glad to see you're learning now - leave the sums to others. 'Other Asians do not want education they want their own state with their own language and laws.' is more your style. No need to come up with those statistics, unless you can tell me:

Do you mean all Asians other than Indians?
Do you mean 100% of this group or the majority or something else - how do you come up with this?

Also: 'They don't try in general'. Does that include those who aren't unemployed or only the unemployed?

[Causus Deli]

Though this may be true statistically the undertone of racism hits you squarely in the face. What do you mean by "they dont try in general?" These people are not born innately lazy. If they are not working then there is a reason for it which has nothing to do with their where they come from. It may be that they are being educated in poor schools, or they may be being brought up according to their cultural backgrounds (multi culturalism). In which case if they are women then it is likely that they are discouraged from working by their families. These factors have nothing to do with "they dont try in general".

The problem is a lack of strong leadership in Britain that says to immigrants, that if they come here then they adopt our way of life, which includes giving equal rights to women, learning English etc.

Exactly or don't come here. If you don't like it bugger off. * notes banal use of racism *

[Causus Deli]

I must admit CD, I couldn't get my head around that either.

You really need to communicate better.

Simple we have 5 kids, none living at home. All live on their own except me and Mrs Deli. That's 6 humble abodes and 7 people 7/6 is just greater than 1.

[Causus Deli]

Anyone who can't moan should be turned away

Who asked you?

[wendigo100]

Simple we have 5 kids, none living at home. All live on their own except me and Mrs Deli. That's 6 humble abodes and 7 people 7/6 is just greater than 1.

You should have explained it like that.

[sasguru]

I suggest you get a simulation program on the case before you say never. Try X and X+0.1 as breeding rates and see if you get to infinity before my assertion is met. If you wish you can put in 200 thousand Asians and 200 million caucasians. I believe SAS is powerful enough to solve this little conundrum in a few seconds.

So the X+0.1 has to stay constant over the years? That is is exactly my point - it doesn't according to the evidence.
CD, you claim to be an ex-professor of Pure Mathematics and to have published research papers. Yet your (lack of) use of facts, evidence, logic and any causal reasoning whatsoever suggests to me that you have at most a passing acqaintance with academia. How can we take you seriously when you are so willing to lie?

[DodgyAgent]

Exactly or don't come here. If you don't like it bugger off. * notes banal use of racism *

OK, so that's the new immigration policy settled, but what about the ones that are already here?

So whilst I accept that you did not suggest getting rid of them, then what would you do?

[Rantor]

I would not allow immigration through marriage. Said before, once here and British passported and not on a visa then they are welcome. All others clear out apart from the top 10% or so of professional EU/US/Jpn people. How can you love someone who you don't know and doesn't speak the same language and has no social aspects in common. No this is their culture and we should not accept it, it is alien to us. We are allowing young girls to be forced against their will to marry someone they don't even know.

If your stats were true then it would be a moot point as all the subsequent generations would be British citizens.

How well they integrate with mainstream British society and is another (real) issue.

I think you were going on about the Poles etc. last week - they are EU whether you like it or not. Are they out or in?

[DodgyAgent]

Simple we have 5 kids, none living at home. All live on their own except me and Mrs Deli. That's 6 humble abodes and 7 people 7/6 is just greater than 1.

You are old with an awful lot of time are you not?