I wasn't working on the computer because I printed it, your honour

[ladymuck]

If I wake at 3am thinking about an issue, can I charge triple time?

If it's in your contract, yes.

[vetran]

If I wake at 3am thinking about an issue, can I charge triple time?

you don't?

Used to be on call, feck me they paid through the nose!

[NotAllThere]

I was taught to use pen/pencil and paper to think about problems e.g. not immediately start working on something until I thought it through. So like you am I working when I solve a problem in the shower, cleaning, walking and shopping in the supermarket, etc?

If I wake at 3am thinking about an issue, can I charge triple time?

[ladymuck]

The legal profession has long charged "thinking time"

[gables]

I'm definitely in the pondering camp ;-) I get my best work done when alone and biking or just looking out the window :-) I remember back in the day (as a contractor) other contractors not understanding why I'd spend 1-1.5 hours (the longer period including jacuzzi) at the gym when I could be billing as we were on hourly rates, what they didn't realise I more often than not could then resolve an issue on my return.

[vetran]

If at home and I get stuck, I usually go for a 30 min walk down the canal and let my sub conscious have a go, if at work I'll go for a coffee and talk tulip to someone. Or come on here and write tulip to complete strangers (apart from Xog).

I've worked at a lot of manufacturing type places and the higher ups tend to hate software as they don't really understand it and how it can be so expensive. In their world the more you make something the cheaper it becomes as you become more efficient.

Now there is the problem Xoggy is completely strange!

Ditto walking & driving provide the best breakthroughs.

[Gibbon]

I was taught to use pen/pencil and paper to think about problems e.g. not immediately start working on something until I thought it through. So like you am I working when I solve a problem in the shower, cleaning, walking and shopping in the supermarket, etc?

If at home and I get stuck, I usually go for a 30 min walk down the canal and let my sub conscious have a go, if at work I'll go for a coffee and talk tulip to someone. Or come on here and write tulip to complete strangers (apart from Xog).

I've worked at a lot of manufacturing type places and the higher ups tend to hate software as they don't really understand it and how it can be so expensive. In their world the more you make something the cheaper it becomes as you become more efficient.

[woohoo]

I could never imagine working somewhere that installed software to manage your productivity. Just screams this company can't manage people, projects and tasks.

[SueEllen]

Time != Value

Pondering how and what to do then spending a short period achieving the right result is better than spending oodles of time producing crap. How do these AI monitors measure quality or are employers not interested in quality

If I spend hours thinking a requirement through whilst listening quietly to music or walking the dog or reading CUK then produce perfect code in minutes have I worked hours or minutes?

I was taught to use pen/pencil and paper to think about problems e.g. not immediately start working on something until I thought it through. So like you am I working when I solve a problem in the shower, cleaning, walking and shopping in the supermarket, etc?

[tazdevil]

Time != Value

Pondering how and what to do then spending a short period achieving the right result is better than spending oodles of time producing crap. How do these AI monitors measure quality or are employers not interested in quality

If I spend hours thinking a requirement through whilst listening quietly to music or walking the dog or reading CUK then produce perfect code in minutes have I worked hours or minutes?