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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post

    Its not sexist to point out men and women have different biological needs and motivations.

    We can pretend they dont existing through political correctness censorship, but that doesn't make them go away.
    Well that proves my point. You are assuming a difference where one doesn't exist purely on the basis of sex. Any behavioural or attitudinal differences are derived from upbringing, not biology.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Fraidycat read Petersen. And now he thinks he's educated.

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  • Fraidycat
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    And there you see sexism writ large...
    Its not sexist to point out men and women have different biological needs and motivations.

    We can pretend they dont existing through political correctness censorship, but that doesn't make them go away.
    Last edited by Fraidycat; 30 June 2021, 16:14.

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post

    Women will always be paid less than men

    1) Women are not as money hungry as men. Average looking men need money and status to improve chances of getting laid by a more attractive women. So will work harder longer and take more risks. Women don't have this motivation.

    2) Women often take long career breaks to raise kids. This means they have less experience when they rejoin the workforce.

    3) In general women don't want to do the boring and unrewarding but higher paid jobs like IT Jobs
    (I don't blame them, working in IT is )

    4) Women ask for pay rises less often than men. You don't ask you don't get. Because this applies to many men as well, it is not a sexist conspiracy against women.
    And there you see sexism writ large...

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  • Fraidycat
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    Originally posted by OneManBand View Post
    I don't vote, because all parties in all countries play for the same team. They just wear different jerseys.
    It is always about voting for the lesser of two evils.

    Who is going to fook you over the least.

    Can you imagine if Corbyn had McDonnell had won last time?

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  • OneManBand
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    I don't vote, because all parties in all countries play for the same team. They just wear different jerseys.

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  • Fraidycat
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    and you can't explain away gender gaps with "legacy effects" or "women want different jobs or less pay".
    Women will always be paid less than men

    1) Women are not as money hungry as men. Average looking men need money and status to improve chances of getting laid by a more attractive women. So will work harder longer and take more risks. Women don't have this motivation.

    2) Women often take long career breaks to raise kids. This means they have less experience when they rejoin the workforce.

    3) In general women don't want to do the boring and unrewarding but higher paid jobs like IT Jobs
    (I don't blame them, working in IT is )

    4) Women ask for pay rises less often than men. You don't ask you don't get. Because this applies to many men as well, it is not a sexist conspiracy against women.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    Perhaps you should read what I said again. Of the four programmes referenced, two were not racist, although they contained racist material for a reason.
    I mentioned one program, I'm not especially interested what you wrote about other shows I've never watched. Although the "we're doing it for a reason" line sounds a bit like Trump's "obviously I was being sarcastic" to me.




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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post

    He wasn't reporting on social history, he was telling what was on TV. To my recollection - though I was only a kid in the 80s - it's entirely accurate to say that casual racism like that was entirely normal in 70s/80-s shows, it seemed to be viewed little worse than jokes about the Irish.

    I was reading an article about Anne Robinson's new gig on Countdown which reminded us how she would joke about people's sexuality on Weakest Link, which would be an insta-fire these days.
    Perhaps you should read what I said again. Of the four programmes referenced, two were not racist, although they contained racist material for a reason. If you want casual racism in the context of humour, go look up "The Comedians" with people like Davison and Manning.

    And Bryson was talking about social history, n the wide sense, in a series of articles written for the Mail on Sunday in the 90s.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    It was actually "Love they Neighbour", and like "Till Death do us Part" it was highlighting the appalling levels of racism and sexism in that day's society. Neither was of itself either racist or sexist. Rising Damp was, on the other hand, quite accurate, and a far better illustration of reality.

    Bryson is a good and entertaining read but he is not a reliable source of accurate social history, his views being heavily influenced by his Iowan upbringing in Middle America in the 50s
    He wasn't reporting on social history, he was telling what was on TV. To my recollection - though I was only a kid in the 80s - it's entirely accurate to say that casual racism like that was entirely normal in 70s/80-s shows, it seemed to be viewed little worse than jokes about the Irish.

    I was reading an article about Anne Robinson's new gig on Countdown which reminded us how she would joke about people's sexuality on Weakest Link, which would be an insta-fire these days.

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