Why journalism - even in MSM - is necessary to hold governments to account

[NotAllThere]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57302806

Denmark helped the US (under Obama) spy on European allies such as Germany. The Danish government and intelligence agencies obviously didn't want this known, but investigative journalists got the evidence.

Of course, you've got to spy on your friends.

[Paddy]

Conspiracy theories. How stupid people get to feel intellectual. You can't argue with True Believers. Did you first read about this in the Schweizer Kuhglocke Zeitung?

[NotAllThere]

No. The Times. In an article by David Baddiel. Quite pithy and accurate, I thought. YMMV.

[DoctorStrangelove]

Ah, so Five Eyes and Echelon are conspiracy theories.

There you go then.

Carry on, nothing to see here.

[NotAllThere]

Ah, so Five Eyes and Echelon are conspiracy theories

They're not theories and they're not conspiracies. And they're essentially the same thing. Other than that, excellent examples!

[ladymuck]

Ah, so Five Eyes and Echelon are conspiracy theories.

There you go then.

Carry on, nothing to see here.

I bet there's something on Oak Island about their links to the Knights Templar

[DoctorStrangelove]

They're not theories and they're not conspiracies. And they're essentially the same thing. Other than that, excellent examples!

[OwlHoot]

I bet there's something on Oak Island about their links to the Knights Templar

Wasn't Oak Island where Captain Blackbeard buried his treasure?

It's all starting to make sense now!

[d000hg]

What does "even in MSM" mean? You're not one of those nuts who only gets their news from 'reliable' sources - some guy on Youtube - are you?

[vetran]

What does "even in MSM" mean? You're not one of those nuts who only gets their news from 'reliable' sources - some guy on Youtube - are you?

There are a lot of them about on here.