R>1

[tazdevil]

NHS app now showing Covid vaccination record

[Andy2]

indian variant could derail the lockdown opening plans. This variants may kill young people as seen in india also and the young people are not yet vaccinated.

[minestrone]

1) Nobody yet knows. There is not one variant first found in India, there are three. Of those, two are of a concern. One appears to be slightly more transmissible, whilst the other is substantially more transmissible. Compared to March 2020 variants, the variant first discovered in Kent was much more transmissible and induced higher viral load quicker than the original variants. One of these Indian variants is even more transmissible than that, which explains the scenes seen in India now.

2) Permitted purposes for traveling include work, so it's easy to see how multiple variants from India could enter the UK. PCR tests don't have 100% detection rates, and are only around 60-70% capable of being accurate even when used perfectly, which they are rarely so outside of a hospital scenario. Lateral flows tests vary in efficacy but are a joke, missing more cases than they catch.

3) We probably will end up with more restrictions again on a regional basis. Our main hope should be that the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine is better than the expected 20-40% against the more worrying Indian variant, otherwise we're going to see a lot of older people affected once more.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

[agentzero]

The idea now is to get the public recognition that case numbers are going up, in lieu of deaths increasing significantly. If deaths don't increase much, good news.

Keeping the public aware that covid-19 hasn't disappeared is the most important thing. That's why this new variant and a reminder to keep socially distancing for a wee bit longer has been broadcast extensively and correctly so.

[AtW]

The Govt knows Vauxhall Zeneca isn't working well, that's why big order for Pfizer (and Moderna?) for autumn, but one needs to survive Boris's approach of getting bodies piled up first.

Good luck all, we are going to need it.

[agentzero]

How effective are the current jabs against the Indian variant?


When did the Indian Variant get into the UK ?

I think the will lockdown again tbh

1) Nobody yet knows. There is not one variant first found in India, there are three. Of those, two are of a concern. One appears to be slightly more transmissible, whilst the other is substantially more transmissible. Compared to March 2020 variants, the variant first discovered in Kent was much more transmissible and induced higher viral load quicker than the original variants. One of these Indian variants is even more transmissible than that, which explains the scenes seen in India now.

2) Permitted purposes for traveling include work, so it's easy to see how multiple variants from India could enter the UK. PCR tests don't have 100% detection rates, and are only around 60-70% capable of being accurate even when used perfectly, which they are rarely so outside of a hospital scenario. Lateral flows tests vary in efficacy but are a joke, missing more cases than they catch.

3) We probably will end up with more restrictions again on a regional basis. Our main hope should be that the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine is better than the expected 20-40% against the more worrying Indian variant, otherwise we're going to see a lot of older people affected once more.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

[agentzero]

There isn't any evidence that there is a new strain here, none, and while there was a few days of unusually high numbers in Glasgow, they dropped very significantly towards the end of the week.

But by Thursday she needed to keep this out of the news...

Scotland’s education system weakest in UK, according to new report (telegraph.co.uk)

...and building a panic, then closing the pubs did the job.

You are a conspiracy theorist nutjob and an embarrassment to contractors everywhere.

Both of the worrying variants, first discovered in India, have been found across Glasgow south side: Pollokshields. Teachers off sick with covid, including some of who have already been fully vaccinated. This is the aspect that should worry us and why caution is urged until more is known about vaccine efficacy.

It seems that the Pfizer BioNTech MRNA vaccine works against these two variants at 60-95%, which is great, but the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine may be 20-40% - not so great.

Still, why escape your conspiracy bubble and rely on facts, eh? You've got a partner who is a GP, but I presume they aren't very good, as they seem to be last in line for any 'facts' but first for general excrement that you post on here.

[OwlHoot]

When did the Indian Variant get into the UK ? ...

Presumably Boris & co wanted to sell some more arms or something to India, and postponed closing the shutters until it was too late.

The same mistake they've made twice before now

[Scorp1]

How effective are the current jabs against the Indian variant?


When did the Indian Variant get into the UK ?

I think the will lockdown again tbh

[OwlHoot]

Original strain had R in region of 3, Kent variant 60% more transmissible, if we get 60% on top of that R will be well above 4 - and we won’t get 75% vaccination levels any time soon, possibly never

All the anti-vax idiots will eventually catch it and either die (the Darwin option) or recover, having gained immunity the hard way.
In either case it's win-win!

P.S. I have no sympathy for superstitious, cowardly, selfish people who by declining the jab are prolonging the whole shenanigans and putting themselves and others at more risk.