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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
To be fair the Lib Dems and Greens are parties that deal with local issues, and give policy ideas to the government of the day.
If Labour, who lost their deposit, want to do well they need to stop being tulip.
The way our parliament currently works, we could get shot of 90% of MPs and just vote for a party leader who then pulls together a cabinet to run the country for 4 years (like in the US), because that's how it works anyway.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
Bless.
If Labour, who lost their deposit, want to do well they need to stop being tulip.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post...to actually cost the Tories any votes?
How about getting a 17-year old girl pregnant? Would that do it?
Or is he now virtually 100% teflon coated and, no matter what bad he does, it won't make much difference?
Before election day, Edwards joked with reporters: "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
Edwards zinged Treen many times, once describing Treen as "so slow it takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes."
During a gubernatorial debate in 1983, Treen asked Edwards, "How come you talk out of both sides of your mouth?" Edwards instantly responded, "So people like you with only half a brain can understand me."
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostLeader Ed Davey celebrated by knocking over a wall of blue bricks, claiming his party was now the "main threat" to the Tories in many areas.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by cojak View Post
I also forgot about HS2 tulip and B****t.
Hehehe….
The Liberal Democrats have pulled off a stunning by-election victory, overturning a 16,000 majority in a seat that has always voted Conservative.
Leader Ed Davey celebrated by knocking over a wall of blue bricks, claiming his party was now the "main threat" to the Tories in many areas.
The party's candidate Sarah Green won by 8,028 votes from the Tories, with the Green Party in third place.
Labour had the worst by-election result in the party's history, with 622 votes.
The result is a major boost for the Liberal Democrats after their poor performance at the 2019 general election and brings their total number of MPs at Westminster to 12.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson described the result for his party as "disappointing".
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Originally posted by cojak View PostThere's a sizable chunk of the electorate that still loves him.
But the Tory party and MP's in particular - that's a different matter.
He now has 2 factions in the party - the Southern, well-off Tories who hate to put their hands in their pockets for anything other than Tory donations to keep taxes and worker's rights as low as possible, and the Northern 'red-wall' seats who are expecting him to make good on his promises and flash the cash in their direction.
Something is going to have to give in that situation, it may just be a couple of years before it does.
In the meantime, the Tory party could become the next reality tv show hit while they fight it out.
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Originally posted by agentzero View PostI see the usual right wingers are here to promote words only used by them: 'woke' being a favourite.
Boris Johnson: Has 8 children, most of whom were with people he was cheating on his wife with, or previous partner. If anybody behaved like that who was my friend, I would have a word with them after the first incident and then not be friends with them. You can definitely extrapolate the way people conduct them-self in their private life to their professional life.
To conflate minor indiscretions with the way Boris Johnson has conduct himself in relationships seems unfair, but perhaps my standards are far higher than that of some posters here.
Do the Tories represent you and your interests? Really?
Here's why they don't: they represent the wealthy. What's your permanent salary prospects? The same as 2000, 2003, 2005, 2007? Me too. Goods and services cost significantly more than twenty years ago and yet wages for the lower paid half of England are the same or less than twenty years ago. It's madness.
The Tories are interested in supplying cheap labour from abroad and cheap labour (you) from within the UK to ensure that company owners and large multinationals get cheap bums on seats - whether those seats are at home or in an office somewhere.
Young people have the lowest share of wealth of any generation in the last 103 years. It's just shy of 3% of all UK wealth. Why do we treat them so poorly? Not a single poster here experienced such a low share of wealth, yet English people seem to want to vote for a party that has great public relations spin but is only good at PR!
Actions speak louder than words and the 'Conservative&Unionist' party have shown that the action doesn't match the PR speak. Sure, vaccination status looks good, which is really not down to the Tories but is down to a great effort by the NHS, PHE, NHS Scotland and groups formed to try source vaccines from around the world and including within the UK. Does this detract from the lack of good jobs, good pay and whatnot for those under the age of 45? I really think it's a different topic.
Looking at my own career, I can see that my ability to earn true wealth has diminished in the last twenty years. This means that those coming into contracting or our various IT industries (for the most part, on this forum, it's IT or related areas) have less earning capacity than ever before.
THAT is what you are voting for with the Tories. You are, quite literally, approving of the traditional class structure and top-heavy wealth structure of the UK.
Still, if you have a low IQ, you can moan about "yellow vests in Europe" (we are in Europe, vetran - go check a map of Europe!) and detract from the real matters but ultimately England seems to be irretrievably broken, caused by a two party political system that means people have to choose between two bad choices.
Resolution: proportional representation, new parties that can gain representation. Thankfully the 'Independent Green Voice' and 'The Family Party' are seen for what they are: far right wing homophobic, pro-fascist nonsense that even in a PR system will never see success.
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Originally posted by agentzero View PostI see the usual right wingers are here to promote words only used by them: 'woke' being a favourite.
Boris Johnson: Has 8 children, most of whom were with people he was cheating on his wife with, or previous partner. If anybody behaved like that who was my friend, I would have a word with them after the first incident and then not be friends with them. You can definitely extrapolate the way people conduct them-self in their private life to their professional life.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by mallisarealperson View Post
The fascinating thing about power is that what can be given so effortlessly can so easily be taken away.Leave a comment:
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