Was there fraud in the US election?

[BR14]

like i said, more succinctly - WALOOB.

[NotAllThere]

When people say "We have found no evidence..." it means one of two thing.
1. We haven't looked
2. We have looked, and we haven't found any evidence.

In this instance, they have looked, and there isn't any evidence.

The election wasn't rigged.
The sky isn't falling.
There is no conspiracy.

HTH BIDI.

[DaveB]

That is just BBC news, any real documents of the actual investigations? Any documents on the dominion voting machine data investigation?

Here he is saying the same thing reported by Associated Press from a direct interview.

Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud

Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

That was December 1st 2020, so far they haven't found anything else either.

[hugebrain]

There's this 124-page document: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...5699.1.0_3.pdf

It starts



…You get the gist

Ha Ha. Grobbelar all over again.

[NickFitz]

That is just BBC news, any real documents of the actual investigations? Any documents on the dominion voting machine data investigation?

There's this 124-page document: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...5699.1.0_3.pdf

It starts

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
US DOMINION, INC. ) 1201 18th Street, Suite 210 ) Denver, CO 80202, )
) DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS, INC. ) 1201 18th Street, Suite 210 ) Denver, CO 80202, and ) ) DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS ) CORPORATION ) 1201 18th Street, Suite 210 )
Denver, CO 80202,
) Case No.
) Plaintiffs, ) )
v.
) ) SIDNEY POWELL ) 3831 Turtle Creek Boulevard, Unit 5B ) Dallas, TX 75219, ) ) SIDNEY POWELL, P.C. ) 2911 Turtle Creek Boulevard, #300 ) Dallas, TX 75219, and ) ) DEFENDING THE REPUBLIC, INC. ) 2911 Turtle Creek Boulevard #300 )
Dallas, TX 75219, Defendants.
) ) )
COMPLAINT AND DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL

1. This defamation action arises from statements made by Sidney Powell, who— acting in concert with allies and media outlets determined to promote a false preconceived narrative about the 2020 election—caused unprecedented harm. During a Washington, D.C. press conference, a Georgia political rally, and a media blitz, Powell falsely claimed that Dominion had rigged the election, that Dominion was created in Venezuela to rig elections for Hugo Chávez, and that Dominion bribed Georgia officials for a no-bid contract.

2. Powell’s wild accusations are demonstrably false. Far from being created in
Venezuela to rig elections for a now-deceased Venezuelan dictator, Dominion was founded in
Toronto for the purpose of creating a fully auditable paper-based vote system that would empower
people with disabilities to vote independently on verifiable paper ballots. As it grew, Dominion
developed technology to solve many of the technical and voter intent issues that came to light as a
result of the 2000 Presidential Election. Its systems are certified under standards promulgated by
the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (“EAC”), reviewed and tested by independent testing
laboratories accredited by the EAC, and were designed to be auditable and include a paper ballot backup to verify results.
Since its founding, Dominion has been chosen by thousands of election officials throughout the United States to provide the technology to effectively administer transparent and fully auditable elections.

3. Because of these safeguards, there are mountains of direct evidence that
conclusively disprove Powell’s vote manipulation claims against Dominion—namely, the millions of paper ballots that were audited and recounted by bipartisan officials and volunteers in Georgia and other swing states, which confirmed that Dominion accurately counted votes on paper ballots.

4. When respected Georgia Republicans disproved Powell’s false accusations by announcing that Georgia’s paper ballot recount had verified the accuracy of Dominion’s vote counts, Powell sought to discredit them by falsely accusing Dominion of paying kickbacks to them and their families in return for a no-bid contract. The only “evidence” Powell ever put forward to support that false accusation was a doctored certificate from the Georgia Secretary of State. Powell has insinuated that the fact that the certificate is undated is suspicious. In reality, the authentic certificate is dated and is publicly available on the Georgia Secretary of State’s website, along with public records showing there was a competitive bid process for the Georgia contract and that
Dominion competed against Smartmatic and Election Systems & Software (“ES&S”).

…You get the gist

[DaveB]

That is just BBC news, any real documents of the actual investigations? Any documents on the dominion voting machine data investigation?

Just BBC News reporting the words spoken by the US Attorney General, a long standing republican who served under Bush and was reappointed by Trump.

Pretty sure if there had been any evidence he'd have produced it, what with that being his job and all as well as supporting his political views.

[NickFitz]

Absolutely there was. Too many votes to not have fraud.

Was there widespread fraud that resulted in a change in election results? No... but you'd have to have a very poor understanding of statistics and human behavior to think it's possible for there to be no fraud. All it takes is a single person voting twice (incorrectly registered in 2 states) or voting for their dead grandmother or a non citizen voting in a state with same day voter registration and no voter id requirements.

You're trying to tell me out of the 150+ million who voted that didn't happen once?

I did hear of a woman who tried to vote in person after already submitting a postal ballot, and another who tried to vote using a dead person's details. Both of them were caught before being able to cast a fraudulent ballot; and both had been intending to vote for Trump

[BlasterBates]

That is just BBC news, any real documents of the actual investigations? Any documents on the dominion voting machine data investigation?

SOM - Hand audit of all Presidential Election votes in Antrim County confirms previously certified results, voting machines were accurate

A hand audit by bipartisan election officials of all the votes cast for president in Antrim County confirmed today that the result certified last month by the bipartisan Board of Antrim County canvassers was accurate. The audit proved again that the disinformation campaign surrounding Antrim’s presidential election and its use of Dominion vote-tabulation machines was completely meritless.

[fullyautomatix]

US attorney general finds '''no voter fraud that could overturn election''' - BBC News

That is just BBC news, any real documents of the actual investigations? Any documents on the dominion voting machine data investigation?

[BlasterBates]

You got a link to the findings published by the FBI and justice dept?

US attorney general finds '''no voter fraud that could overturn election''' - BBC News

US Attorney General William Barr says his justice department has found no proof to back President Donald Trump's claims of fraud in the 2020 election.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," he said.