Don't buy a car.

[Mordac]

Looking forward to a nice deal on 911 992 Turbo S, with 8 speed PDK fitted as standard, right now they have MF sized price tags

This time next year...

...there won't be a wall in the West-Midlands which won't be crapping itself...

[clearedforlanding]

Depends what you mean by the environment.

Electric cars are definitely better for local air quality. There is a case to be made for moving the environmental damage from point of consumption to point of production because it's much much much easier to work towards solutions that contain the problem at point of production. For example carbon capture technology would be much easier to implement in a manufacturing facility then it would be to have on each individual vehicle on the road.

These are fair points you make. It relies on industry making the changes; in the meanwhile lower end family sized EVs with 150 miles range hover around 30k, which is way out of the price range/usability of most. Without consumer adoption it will not make a difference.

There is one VERY important point: People are scared of buying used EVs. Used cars are 8 out of 9 of the UK market. Used cars are only really seen in the wild on PCP packages to mitigate risk in the eyes of the owner.

It is a hard sell to convince a young family to not pick up a cracking used Peugeot diesel SUV for 5K which will do just shy of 800 miles a tank as opposed to 300 GBP monthly payments in addition to the deposit & balloon payment for a Leaf + the fast charge install.

I would love for it to be different, but battery prices have to come down. The need for rare earth metals adds a dose of geopolitical instability - look at the German's being bent over by Putin over gas.

[jayn200]

Electric cars are not better for the environment than used ICE cars once they have been manufactured.

Depends what you mean by the environment.

Electric cars are definitely better for local air quality. There is a case to be made for moving the environmental damage from point of consumption to point of production because it's much much much easier to work towards solutions that contain the problem at point of production. For example carbon capture technology would be much easier to implement in a manufacturing facility then it would be to have on each individual vehicle on the road.

[clearedforlanding]

Electric cars only please.

Climate change: 2020 set to be one of the three warmest years on record - BBC News

Electric cars are not better for the environment than used ICE cars once they have been manufactured.

[SueEllen]

Electric cars only please.

Climate change: 2020 set to be one of the three warmest years on record - BBC News

Was it?

I spent most of the fecking year inside like most of the UK population.

[Gibbon]

Electric cars only please.

Climate change: 2020 set to be one of the three warmest years on record - BBC News

So we're cooling then, good news at last! No more hockey stick graphs, more a dear drooper!

[_V_]

Electric cars only please.

Climate change: 2020 set to be one of the three warmest years on record - BBC News

[rootsnall]

last time I was offered a company car the only option was a Passat estate, I took the car allowance

Not the cheapest Passats these days, they were £200 bangers at one time, a bit of shock when looking for an estate recently.

[DoctorStrangelove]

[CoolCat]

Passat?

last time I was offered a company car the only option was a Passat estate, I took the car allowance