London perm salaries

[Old Greg]

This forum is full of old people telling all the youngsters to never go contracting and posting garbage about the weather and discussing everything apart from contracting

For people in their mid to late 30s serious about their career and earning capacity and tax optimisation which is what this forum should be about it’s very unfortunate

When a thread moves to general you just know it’s time to check out because all the lazy people jump in and take the conversation to a different tangent

It was worth posting for me to get a feel of what London financial perm salaries were paying. The rest of the thread was hijacked by people who wanted to pass their time

A shame that the admins don’t actually stop this childish behaviour but I ll go back to just browse mode rather than contribute mode

Job's a good 'un.

[Old Greg]

Wow

For a dinosaur of tech your ability to string arguments and adult conversation is at the level of children who enjoy playing with toys of the same name.

This thread from memory started as a genuine request about VP perm salaries.

Your input on the other hand was about your day rate and how much you have to be paid to get out of bed. We care because...?

Anyway, quick answer to the question above is no I am not the OP. You guys serious that people waste time with 2 logins for supporting their own argument? How much spare do these people have!?!

We do indeed enjoy toying with folk like you.

[PermMCCon]

This forum is full of old people telling all the youngsters to never go contracting and posting garbage about the weather and discussing everything apart from contracting

For people in their mid to late 30s serious about their career and earning capacity and tax optimisation which is what this forum should be about it’s very unfortunate

When a thread moves to general you just know it’s time to check out because all the lazy people jump in and take the conversation to a different tangent

It was worth posting for me to get a feel of what London financial perm salaries were paying. The rest of the thread was hijacked by people who wanted to pass their time

A shame that the admins don’t actually stop this childish behaviour but I ll go back to just browse mode rather than contribute mode

Agreed

I’m back to browsing mode after this.

Best of luck in your search and hope it all works out.

[LondonPM1]

It's pretty demanding job but that's mainly as my area we work directly with front office, I found European banks alot less stress. The main benefit for me is the flexibility I get my team is spread across APAC, Europe and US so even though I'm based In London I can work to what time zone I want, currently working to US hrs so can do school run etc, its 555pm for me at moment.

I understand 625 wasn't enough for my friend but he was still basi g it on what the market was, covid and IR35 changes screwed it up, my place won't deal with PSC anymore. Hopefully things will recover but alot of people think this is end of good times. I do regret going permy when I could of milked a few more yrs out of contracting but I need flexibility over cash for last few yrs.

I terms of the role I was hiring for I got alot of very good strong CVs, there is alot of skilled people out there looking. In the end I had to take soneone on an internal move.

Thank you. This is spot on valuable info

How much time do you spend on coding and debugging vs planning budgeting and reporting

I thought you meant he wanted 625 but you could only offer 90 perm. Or did I misunderstand?

And finally you say your company does not take psc anymore. I am hearing the same. Does that mean all the contractors have been internalised or booted out

[BoggyMcCBoggyFace]

Thank you. This is helpful. Another data point to vindicate the whole argument of 625 a day vs 90k perm. Clearly in your example the applicant preferred 625 a day and I don’t blame them at all given the tax position

I’d love to hear what you or your teams working hours are like. Is it 9-6 with a one hour lunch break Or much more stressful. How much time are you coding vs project planning budget and admin

It's pretty demanding job but that's mainly as my area we work directly with front office, I found European banks alot less stress. The main benefit for me is the flexibility I get my team is spread across APAC, Europe and US so even though I'm based In London I can work to what time zone I want, currently working to US hrs so can do school run etc, its 555pm for me at moment.

I understand 625 wasn't enough for my friend but he was still basi g it on what the market was, covid and IR35 changes screwed it up, my place won't deal with PSC anymore. Hopefully things will recover but alot of people think this is end of good times. I do regret going permy when I could of milked a few more yrs out of contracting but I need flexibility over cash for last few yrs.

I terms of the role I was hiring for I got alot of very good strong CVs, there is alot of skilled people out there looking. In the end I had to take soneone on an internal move.

[LondonPM1]

My place for VP band front office is £75k to £120k most senior devs on £90k to £110k, bonus 4% to 10%.This is for one of the largest non European investment banks. Salaries been flat for 4-5 years now no. Increases reflecting current IT salary trend downwards. We don't really have project managers at all there.

I rang someone I know in July to see if they would take VP role on £90k at my place, they said it wasnt enough after being on 625 a day. They still looking for role and rang me last week interested in it but I filled the role.

Thank you. This is helpful. Another data point to vindicate the whole argument of 625 a day vs 90k perm. Clearly in your example the applicant preferred 625 a day and I don’t blame them at all given the tax position

Were you not able to hire contractor instead of perm for this guy at 625?

I’d love to hear what you or your teams working hours are like. Is it 9-6 with a one hour lunch break Or much more stressful. How much time are you coding vs project planning budget and admin

Finally how long did it take to fill the role. Were you flooded by resumes or did hr do a lot of the screening and you got left with quality skilled people

[BoggyMcCBoggyFace]

My place for VP band front office is £75k to £120k most senior devs on £90k to £110k, bonus 4% to 10%.This is for one of the largest non European investment banks not a hedge fund and they tend to pay mid range. Salaries been flat for 4-5 years now no increases reflecting current IT salary trend downwards. We don't really have project managers at all there.

I rang someone I know in July to see if they would take VP role on £90k at my place, they said it wasnt enough after being on 625 a day. They still looking for role and rang me last week interested in it but I filled the role.

[LondonPM1]

Wow

For a dinosaur of tech your ability to string arguments and adult conversation is at the level of children who enjoy playing with toys of the same name.

This thread from memory started as a genuine request about VP perm salaries.

Your input on the other hand was about your day rate and how much you have to be paid to get out of bed. We care because...?

Anyway, quick answer to the question above is no I am not the OP. You guys serious that people waste time with 2 logins for supporting their own argument? How much spare do these people have!?!

This forum is full of old people telling all the youngsters to never go contracting and posting garbage about the weather and discussing everything apart from contracting

For people in their mid to late 30s serious about their career and earning capacity and tax optimisation which is what this forum should be about it’s very unfortunate

When a thread moves to general you just know it’s time to check out because all the lazy people jump in and take the conversation to a different tangent

It was worth posting for me to get a feel of what London financial perm salaries were paying. The rest of the thread was hijacked by people who wanted to pass their time

A shame that the admins don’t actually stop this childish behaviour but I ll go back to just browse mode rather than contribute mode

[eek]

Wow

For a dinosaur of tech your ability to string arguments and adult conversation is at the level of children who enjoy playing with toys of the same name.

This thread from memory started as a genuine request about VP perm salaries.

Your input on the other hand was about your day rate and how much you have to be paid to get out of bed. We care because...?

Anyway, quick answer to the question above is no I am not the OP. You guys serious that people waste time with 2 logins for supporting their own argument? How much spare do these people have!?!

What's a VP? Ithought it was a junior manager role..

[jamesbrown]

Wow

For a dinosaur of tech your ability to string arguments and adult conversation is at the level of children who enjoy playing with toys of the same name.

This thread from memory started as a genuine request about VP perm salaries.

Your input on the other hand was about your day rate and how much you have to be paid to get out of bed. We care because...?

Anyway, quick answer to the question above is no I am not the OP. You guys serious that people waste time with 2 logins for supporting their own argument? How much spare do these people have!?!

Oh come now, you are a bit of a whiny pole choker.