Stand down: Moscow has ‘irrefutable’ evidence chem attack in Syria’s Douma was staged
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    Default Stand down: Moscow has ‘irrefutable’ evidence chem attack in Syria’s Douma was staged

    https://www.rt.com/news/424280-russi...attack-staged/

    Moscow has “irrefutable proof” that the alleged chemical incident in Syria’s Douma was a “false-flag attack,” orchestrated by UK security services with support from the United States, the Russian envoy to the OPCW said.

    “We have not just a ‘high level of confidence,’ as our Western partners uniformly put it; we have irrefutable proof that there was no chemical attack in Douma on April 7,” Russia’s Ambassador to the Organization for the Prohibition of the Chemical Weapons Aleksandr Shulgin said at a special meeting of the UN chemical watchdog’s executive council. The diplomat added that the incident had been a “pre-planned false-flag attack by the British security services, which could have also been aided by their allies in Washington.”

    “Things unfolded according to the pre-written scenario prepared by Washington. There’s no doubt, the Americans play ‘first fiddle’ in all of this,” Shulgin said, adding that “attack” was staged by “pseudo-humanitarian NGOs,” which are under the patronage of the Syrian government’s foreign adversaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    But BoJo's White Helmets said it happened so it must have been a chemical attack.
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    If RT says it, it must be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post
    But BoJo's White Helmets said it happened so it must have been a chemical attack.
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    Without picking sides... someone just explain to me why on the eve of winning the conflict Bashar would use chemical weapons knowing what the international response would be?

    Perhaps Dr Bashar thought he was just practicing local Anaesthesia... so not so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    Without picking sides... someone just explain to me why on the eve of winning the conflict Bashar would use chemical weapons knowing what the international response would be?
    It's tactical - urban fighting very expensive for attackers because defenders hide in rubble (look up Stalingrad battle), chlorine is heavier than air so it gets into depth of building, forcing to withdraw key defending points - it breaks will to resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    Without picking sides... someone just explain to me why on the eve of winning the conflict Bashar would use chemical weapons knowing what the international response would be?
    Despots have been known to commit atrocities on their own people to discourage future uprisings.

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    There are lots of possible reasons, so it's hard to look inside the minds of thugs like Putin and Assad to see what the actual reason was. The one line of argument that doesn't stand up is that Assad has no possible reason for using chemical weapons (and therefore he didn't).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    It's tactical - urban fighting very expensive for attackers because defenders hide in rubble (look up Stalingrad battle), chlorine is heavier than air so it gets into depth of building, forcing to withdraw key defnding points - it breaks will to resist
    With a near impossible enemy, you just surround the area in question and cut off supply lines, sooner or later starvation cripples the enemy. Dozens of examples of how such techniques were practiced in war after war over the last 200 years are available to read about.

    It just doesn't make sense otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    Without picking sides... someone just explain to me why on the eve of winning the conflict Bashar would use chemical weapons knowing what the international response would be?

    Perhaps Dr Bashar thought he was just practicing local Anaesthesia... so not so bad.
    What leads you to believe that a regime engaged in a bloody, seven-year civil war that has killed an estimated 400,000 and displaced six million of its own citizens would behave rationally?

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