How to commit career suicide - moan about diversity

[northernladyuk]

There's kind of a fundamental flaw in being all PC about "diversity". A company and it's employees need to be 100% focused on delivery. In a business that runs that way, it gets to be automatically pretty diverse. I mean, who cares flying f**k if a piping designer uses a wheel chair or if civil engineer is deaf? In my honest experience, NOBODY cares. An organisation that focuses resources on diversity is actually admitting it is failing, in my view. I think it has a potential to be very damaging indeed to a company by deflecting attention and resources towards non productive actions and ideas in the name of being PC about "diversity".

Wheelchair users and deaf people face barriers. Diversity is about dealing with these barriers.

Anyway, I'd say Alphabet is doing OK for itself.

[vetran]

Blind recruitment trial to boost gender equality making things worse, study reveals - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The trial found assigning a male name to a candidate made them 3.2 per cent less likely to get a job interview.

Adding a woman's name to a CV made the candidate 2.9 per cent more likely to get a foot in the door.

so there is already positive discrimination.

[Fred Bloggs]

Wheelchair users and deaf people face barriers. Diversity is about dealing with these barriers.

Anyway, I'd say Alphabet is doing OK for itself.

In my world I'd say certainly not. As for religion, race or other factors, equally not. Perhaps I am fortunate, age is no barrier either. Luckily for me, there are plenty of guys approaching or in their 70's and still top of their game. Delivering an international O&G project is 100% about delivery, on time, to budget and safely. Everything else is just a given.

[BrilloPad]

so there is already positive discrimination.

Would you rather employ some MAMIL? Or a young female?

[SueEllen]

so there is already positive discrimination.

What about unisex names?

They have already done studies on non-Anglo Saxon names properly and individuals. Virgin Media was going to be sued by a black guy due to not interviewing him until he put a fake Anglo-Saxon name on the same CV. Another guy changed his name from an Islamic one to a very weird British one and Schroders suddenly decided with the same CV he was worth interviewing.

[vetran]

Would you rather employ some MAMIL? Or a young female?

are they any good?
can we work with them?

anything else important?

[SueEllen]

Would you rather employ some MAMIL? Or a young female?

Depends on how the MAMIL looks in Lycra....


On a more serious note if you want to pay someone less you hire the young female.

[SueEllen]

so there is already positive discrimination.

Yep I pointed that out many posts ago.

In regards to disabled people for most government positions if you have a disability you automatically get an interview. It is enshrined in law that you can do this.

The reason for that is - and I know deaf and blind people - is that employers automatically think the reasonable adjustments they need are really difficult so it's easily not to interview the person. There as for lots disabilities - there are a lot of hidden ones - the adjustments are easy to do and some employers do them anyway for all their staff e.g. flexible working.

[vetran]

Depends on how the MAMIL looks in Lycra....


On a more serious note if you want to pay someone less you hire the young female.

or the old bloke after he was made redundant.

Or the best if you know what you are doing.

[vetran]

Yep I pointed that out many posts ago.

In regards to disabled people for most government positions if you have a disability you automatically get an interview. It is enshrined in law that you can do this.

The reason for that is - and I know deaf and blind people - is that employers automatically think the reasonable adjustments they need are really difficult so it's easily not to interview the person. There as for lots disabilities - there are a lot of hidden ones - the adjustments are easy to do and some employers do them anyway for all their staff e.g. flexible working.

Mate of mine was legally registered as partially sighted (teenage cataracts) 20 years ago, he got a job with the council because he filled their disability quota. After his operation he joined one of the big 5 and became one of their top programmers.

We had a chap who was partially sighted and a copy of Dolphin and he was fine.

I would employ disabled people.