Finsbury Park attack - terrorism or not?

[Bee]

Is the treatment of the Finsbury Park attack as a terrorist attack an example of political correctness and neo-liberalism, or is there a direct equivalence between that attack and the Borough Market, Westminster Bridge etc. attacks? I'm kind of leaning to the former.

I don't see any difference between an extremist Muslim kill non-Muslims in a violent way with an extremist non-Muslim attacking the Muslims in the same violent way. The modus-operandi from both are classified as a terrorist act.

[SueEllen]

I have a problem with unlimited migration that changes the fabric of this country beyond recognition especially when one part of a group want to kill you.

The only immigration we have had that could have been described as "unlimited" is from the EU and even then the UK government is and was legally allowed to place restrictions on it.

Those from the rest of the world are subject to immigration restrictions.

I guess you simply just don't like brown people - though I should warn you some Muslims are white e.g. from the Balkans or white-looking e.g. those from Syria, Iran, Iraq. If you live in London or any other large UK city it means you won't know when you are interacting with a Muslim.

[SueEllen]

I don't see any difference between an extremist Muslim kill non-Muslims in a violent way with an extremist non-Muslim attacking the Muslims in the same violent way. The modus-operandi from both are classified as a terrorist act.

That's because there isn't.

However in the minds of some posters here if the person claims they are Muslim and kills non-Muslims (plus a few Muslims) they are definitely a terrorist. If they are non-Muslims they are just mentally ill.

[AtW]

It's murder, big enough crime...

[MarillionFan]

The only immigration we have had that could have been described as "unlimited" is from the EU and even then the UK government is and was legally allowed to place restrictions on it.

Those from the rest of the world are subject to immigration restrictions.

I guess you simply just don't like brown people - though I should warn you some Muslims are white e.g. from the Balkans or white-looking e.g. those from Syria, Iran, Iraq. If you live in London or any other large UK city it means you won't know when you are interacting with a Muslim.

Fook you. You know exactly what I mean. Immigration into the country has effectively been largely unchecked. The restrictions you so proudly tout are not stringent enough.
EU migrants can come and go, but there's no way you can tell me the influx of illiterate, non-English speaking spongers have been beneficial for the country.

I've lived in the East End of London for a while 25 years ago. It was changing then, I don't recognize it anymore.

Why don't they change the BBC show Eastenders to show what it really looks like, and to your last point, I'm married to one of 'them' foreigners.

[MarillionFan]

That's because there isn't.

However in the minds of some posters here if the person claims they are Muslim and kills non-Muslims (plus a few Muslims) they are definitely a terrorist. If they are non-Muslims they are just mentally ill.

It's terrorism if he's done it in the name of a cause as opposed to getting fecked off & committing a racist/criminal act. I doubt he's even mentally ill, he's just a knob.

Shouting 'God is great' as you kill people on the other hand

[The_Equalizer]

Fook you. You know exactly what I mean. Immigration into the country has effectively been largely unchecked. The restrictions you so proudly tout are not stringent enough.
EU migrants can come and go, but there's no way you can tell me the influx of illiterate, non-English speaking spongers have been beneficial for the country.

I've lived in the East End of London for a while 25 years ago. It was changing then, I don't recognize it anymore.

Why don't they change the BBC show Eastenders to show what it really looks like, and to your last point, I'm married to one of 'them' foreigners.

I'm surprised that not more was made of Blair and Mandelson sending out 'search parties' abroad to recruit more Labour voters.

[MarillionFan]

I'm surprised that not more was made of Blair and Mandelson sending out 'search parties' abroad to recruit more Labour voters.

It was the only way London was going to turn Red wasn't it.

[SueEllen]

I'm surprised that not more was made of Blair and Mandelson sending out 'search parties' abroad to recruit more Labour voters.

EU citizens can't vote in General Elections.

[The_Equalizer]

EU citizens can't vote in General Elections.

These weren't EU citizens.

Labour 'sent out search parties for immigrants', Lord Mandelson admits - Daily Telegraph 14 May 2013