Bad News for the Climate zealots

[DodgyAgent]

Anyone know what the ideal average temperature of the earth should be yet?

[pjclarke]

From a purely anthropocentric viewpoint the regime in which civilisation, agriculture and infrastructure developed would be a good choice.

But we've blown that.

[DodgyAgent]

From a purely anthropocentric viewpoint the regime in which civilisation, agriculture and infrastructure developed would be a good choice.

But we've blown that.

which was when exactly?

I quite like this https://youtu.be/RkdbSxyXftc?t=12

[pjclarke]

The Holocene.

Course you do, it's a Youtube video from a PR Consultant.

Same credibility level as Rose at the Mail Online.

[DodgyAgent]

The Holocene.

Course you do, it's a Youtube video from a PR Consultant.

Same credibility level as Rose at the Mail Online.

So the facts its presents are completely wrong then?

George Monbiot - the human hating envy driven lefty

[DodgyAgent]

From a purely anthropocentric viewpoint the regime in which civilisation, agriculture and infrastructure developed would be a good choice.

But we've blown that.

In who's opinion would it have been a "good choice"? and do you think human beings could have controlled the climate 7000 years ago?

[pjclarke]

So the facts its presents are completely wrong then?

In the first 2 minutes :-

'Roman Warming Period was warmer than today'

'No correlation between CO2 and temperature over the last 400K yrs.'

'Temperatures basically flat for 2 decades', 'No net warming'

Let's just fact-check the middle one:



Moore is a Liar.

George Monbiot - the human hating envy driven lefty

Ah, so you have no actual rebuttal then.

[DodgyAgent]

In the first 2 minutes :-

'Roman Warming Period was warmer than today'

'No correlation between CO2 and temperature over the last 400K yrs.'

'Temperatures basically flat for 2 decades', 'No net warming'

Let's just fact-check the middle one:









Ah, so you have no actual rebuttal then.

Fair enough I am happy to accept facts. As far as Monbiot is concerned I am using your tactic of playing the man. But you still havn't answered the question about what is the ideal state of climate?

[DodgyAgent]

I also quite like this

CO2 Science

This, then, is what we truly believe will be the result of the ongoing rise in the air's CO2 content: a reinvigorated biosphere characteristic of those prior periods of earth's history when the air's CO2 concentration was much higher than it is today, coupled with a climate not much different from that of the present. Are we right? Only time will tell. But one thing is certain now: there is much more real-world evidence for the encouraging scenario we paint here than for the doom-and-gloom predictions of apocalypse that are preached by those who blindly follow the manifestly less-than-adequate prognostications of imperfect climate models.

[shaunbhoy]

Anyone know what the ideal average temperature of the earth should be yet?

The temperature at which Governments can extort the maximum percentage of taxes from the people based on flimsy guilt data?