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True, but at least the forms are obeyed - he did not take away my right to vote for him, I can walk into Russian consulate and vote for Putin easily ... -
Originally posted by Old Greg View PostOne of the interesting aspects of polling is that older folk are more likely to vote Leave but they won't enjoy all the benefits. But that's democracy for you!
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Old people are the problem? There's at least three regular posters who believe the European Court of Justice has no jurisdiction in Britain.
Ain't no one going rule over me . No rules, no law Fight the power!
Oh God we're fooked.
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That's fine, they should register as voters in their country of residence, if they choose not to do so that's their own choice.Originally posted by AtW View PostWhy there should be any cut off? All citizens over age of X should have basic right to vote, that's democracy.
It's completely undemocratic to prevent them from voting - even UK prisoners won right to vote.
People who don't live in the UK shouldn't get to vote on UK issues or UK representatives, allowing them to do so is actively anti democratic as they don't have to live with the consequences of their votes, in theory accountability should go both ways.
It's the same principle that is being applied to the Scottish MP's who sit in Westminster, they are; at least theoretically; prevented from voting on England specific issues as they have their own Parliament to cover those issues.Comment
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Better red than blue....Originally posted by AtW View PostTrue, but at least the forms are obeyed - he did not take away my right to vote for him, I can walk into Russian consulate and vote for Putin easily ...Comment
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Wrong.Originally posted by TykeMerc View PostThat's fine, they should register as voters in their country of residence, if they choose not to do so that's their own choice.
With the exception of local elections (in the EU and a very fewSwiss communities), non-citizens cannot register to vote in their country of residence. That means no choice regarding National/General elections and no voting in national referenda. Nor is there an automatic right of citizenship after a certain number of years.
I do think 15 years is not an unreasonable limit, however. By then in most countries you can at least apply for citizenship, if you want to.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Ireland allows UK citizens who are resident to vote in all elections but not referenda.Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostWrong.
With the exception of local elections (in the EU and a very fewSwiss communities), non-citizens cannot register to vote in their country of residence. That means no choice regarding National/General elections and no voting in national referenda. Nor is there an automatic right of citizenship after a certain number of years.
I do think 15 years is not an unreasonable limit, however. By then in most countries you can at least apply for citizenship, if you want to.Comment
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Ok- cannot generally.Originally posted by Old Greg View PostIreland allows UK citizens who are resident to vote in all elections but not referenda.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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So would you like to see non-UK EU citizens resident in the UK register to vote in the UK?Originally posted by TykeMerc View PostThat's fine, they should register as voters in their country of residence, if they choose not to do so that's their own choice.
People who don't live in the UK shouldn't get to vote on UK issues or UK representatives, allowing them to do so is actively anti democratic as they don't have to live with the consequences of their votes, in theory accountability should go both ways.
It's the same principle that is being applied to the Scottish MP's who sit in Westminster, they are; at least theoretically; prevented from voting on England specific issues as they have their own Parliament to cover those issues.Comment
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Another interesting aspect of polling is that younger folk are more likely to vote Remain, but they are also likely to change their opinions with age (e.g. become more conservative), and they will have to live with the consequences. But that's democracy for you!Originally posted by Old Greg View PostOne of the interesting aspects of polling is that older folk are more likely to vote Leave but they won't have to live with the consequences. But that's democracy for you!Comment
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