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Net Migration Hits New Record High of 336,000

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Seriously, I would too. Lots of people generalise them as unskilled benefits tourists, then other people say "but look at all the doctors" as if that means they're ALL doctors. Some people show statistics claiming a net benefit from immigrants, others claim the opposite.

    Generalising millions of people is rarely helpful.

    But we'll have that referendum soon...
    The eastern europeans do work and they boost the economy but they are not bringing the real skills that this country needs. The apologists are pointing out the boost to the economy which is fine but we may as well assimilate the entire population of Poland into the UK - leaving behind their Stem workers and pensioners.

    Yes the economy will grow but do we really want to live in a small country with a population of 100 million?

    Furthermore the infrastructure needed to cope with education, housing transport and health will only play "catch up" making life here quite intolerable.

    And we will ignore our own people if we can get cheap hard working bright immigrants. So social divides will be worse.

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    I'd like to see a breakdown of skills/education standard of the immigrants. From my experience a few percent are highly educated and skilled, most are just chancers down the car wash/pizza delivery/cleaners or recruitment agents.
    Migrants in the UK Labour Market: An Overview | The Migration Observatory

    Low level skills. The graduates get the jobs in starbucks out competing lesser qualified UK workers. hardly any are engineers (plenty of anecdotes I am sure) IT specialists or "STEM" workers. Good number of builders (building more houses for fellow migrants self perpetuating population growth). NHS is the only "high end" skill employer proactively recruiting from abroad (doctors from everywhere)

    The population in this country is booming but not with the skills that are really needed

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    I'd like to see a breakdown of skills/education standard of the immigrants.
    Seriously, I would too. Lots of people generalise them as unskilled benefits tourists, then other people say "but look at all the doctors" as if that means they're ALL doctors. Some people show statistics claiming a net benefit from immigrants, others claim the opposite.

    Generalising millions of people is rarely helpful.

    But we'll have that referendum soon...

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    very few have the skills that are really needed
    I'd like to see a breakdown of skills/education standard of the immigrants. From my experience a few percent are highly educated and skilled, most are just chancers down the car wash/pizza delivery/cleaners or recruitment agents.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    And when they themselves need medical care or housing? Oh I see, we can double the immigration rate every year...simples!
    I dunno. How many doctors and brickies per 1000 population do we need, and how does that compare to their prevalence in our immigrant population?

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by Martin Scroatman View Post
    Maybe the rest is from asylum? Perhaps that isn't counted as migration.

    It's from an Express article called Goodbye England's green and pleasant land: Immigration boom will DEVASTATE countryside
    So, we're going to cut down on immigration and let another 10 million in?

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Good job so many immigrants are doctors and brickies, to cope with the increased pressures on NHS and housing
    very few have the skills that are really needed

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    FTFY

    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Good job so many immigrants are doctors and brickies, who will send the cash back to their own country, thus exporting UK GDP
    It's from an Express article
    That's taken any serious debate off the table then, 2nd only to The Fail

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  • Martin Scroatman
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Surely an influx would consist of three thirds coming from migration?
    Maybe the rest is from asylum? Perhaps that isn't counted as migration.

    It's from an Express article called Goodbye England's green and pleasant land: Immigration boom will DEVASTATE countryside

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by Martin Scroatman View Post
    The Office of National Statistics said the UK will face an influx of at least 10 MILLION people by 2039, with around two-thirds of that figure coming from migration
    Surely an influx would consist of three thirds coming from migration?

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