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    #31
    Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
    So I have a list of agents emails that I trust (or rather hate th least!)

    I email that list when available.

    Why go through this site?
    You reinforce our motivator, which is: contractors don't always know which recruiters the best of their peers trust.
    • Who are the top-rate contractors using?
    • Who has the trust of specialists in "Tech x"?


    It's give to get..

    If you share your trust we can tell you who the others trust..
    Last edited by benjiman; 1 August 2013, 21:34.

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      #32
      Originally posted by benjiman View Post
      You reinforce our motivator, which is: contractors don't always know which recruiters the best of their peers trust.
      • Who are the top-rate contractors using?
      • Who has the trust of specialists in "Tech x"?


      It's give to get..

      If you share your trust we can tell you who the others trust..
      Your motivator then, for me is entirely misplaced.

      I trust no agent, I don't believe there are any that I can particularly trust more than another.

      an agent might do perfectly fine for me, and might totally feck over the next guy, and vice versa.

      Getting in the submitted list for a role is mostly down to luck, how quickly u get your cv in, whether the agent or his junior cv sifter puts u in his pile to look at yadda yadda

      You can be the best widget wangler and not even get a call back for a role fitting 100% of your skillset

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        #33
        Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
        Your motivator then, for me is entirely misplaced.

        I trust no agent, I don't believe there are any that I can particularly trust more than another.

        an agent might do perfectly fine for me, and might totally feck over the next guy, and vice versa.

        Getting in the submitted list for a role is mostly down to luck, how quickly u get your cv in, whether the agent or his junior cv sifter puts u in his pile to look at yadda yadda

        You can be the best widget wangler and not even get a call back for a role fitting 100% of your skillset
        +1

        There are some agents that if I had any choice I'd not work through. There are some agents that I'd have no problem with working with again. There are some agents that I like personally.

        I'm not sure that I trust any of them more than the other - at the end of the day, it's business.

        I really cannot see any need for this website, as much as I'm trying to.
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          #34
          I know which agencies I would rather not deal with. However, at the end of the day, I'm running a business, I go to the supplier with the work on offer: I've had two very good gigs through one of the hated ones, who were entirely professional throughout.

          Given a choice of supplier, and assuming I know none of them (unlikely but possible), then you may have something of value - but it's nothing I can't already lay my hands on from people I know. So where is your USP?
          Blog? What blog...?

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            #35
            Hmmm...a trusted agent. I'll file this alongside unicorns, fairies, hen's teeeth and rocking horse tulipe.
            Blood in your poo

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              #36
              Is there still no andyw option? The mod standards are slipping.

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                #37
                Why doesn't CUK do this ?

                Seems to me that a trusted outfit like CUK should do this, perhaps restricting votes to those who have been members for three months to avoid astroturfing.
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                  #38
                  Wow "astroturfing"

                  Sheesh, tough crowd!

                  "Astroturfing". Thanks for teaching me a new word Dominic!

                  The feedback is priceless, but there's no need for heavy handed moderation, I'm here asking you guys questions. I'm hardly a guerilla marketeer, and this is hardly a viral campaign anyone would be proud of - haha

                  I've been busy working in banks my whole career, and thought I'd stop to build this tool for y'all, so I came on to ask what you think.

                  I'm simply of the belief that we are going to see less 'permanent' work in the future, and more freelancing/contracting. It doesn't have to be as cloak and dagger/word of mouth as contractors like to make it out to be.

                  I see an increase in liquidity in the job market that requires tools to enable it. "Telephone trading" died a death quickly, why shouldn't "telephone contracting" when we start using tools to (dis)engage recruiters. Maybe if you're not digitally engaged you'll simply see business erode?

                  I appreciate that many here think the current system is all working well, and that this is a mere convenience but I've got happy contractor users and recruiter customers that see the benefits:
                  • Contractors like being able to hold their contact details back from the masses and tell them they are unavailable without burning their bridges, keeping them bookmarked for later. They like being able to start dis(engage) their recruiter pools easily. They like the professional tone of the notifications.
                  • Recruiters like being able to make calls to people they know are quality AND looking, before trying to source candidates by other means.


                  Maybe I'm a dreamer, and the numbers will never get to LinkedIn size, but it's finding its market, and that may even be enough. This is just the start, I've designed a semantic skills matching engine that can totally avoid keyword matching/guessing and totally reinvents the cv.

                  Maybe I'll win some more of you over then, if I haven't been kicked off for trying to build products for contractors.. Have a great weekend!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by benjiman View Post

                    <complaining that some of his target market don't get it/>

                    Maybe I'll win some more of you over then, if I haven't been kicked off for trying to build products for contractors.. Have a great weekend!
                    Look, maybe you are right and it will work, and good luck to you for trying. I applaud you for trying to defend your idea having invested 1.5 years time in it.

                    You won't be kicked off here for trying to build something for contractors, but equally don't expect us just to say 'brilliant idea" when we do not think it is.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by benjiman View Post
                      You reinforce our motivator, which is: contractors don't always know which recruiters the best of their peers trust.
                      • Who are the top-rate contractors using?
                      • Who has the trust of specialists in "Tech x"?


                      It's give to get..

                      If you share your trust we can tell you who the others trust..


                      iProfile, which we all hate on here, has a model where a contractor/permie uploads their CV, selects when they are available and their CV is searchable by skill set by agencies the contractor/permie allows.

                      How is your model different?

                      However the model has failed due to it's rigidity and lack of data control. So it's actually agencies who are uploading contractors/permie details and setting availability.

                      Plus in niche sectors, which I know a couple of contractors work in, everyone knows each other - both agents and contractors. So your tool is of absolutely no value to them.

                      In larger technical sectors the "hot names" on the contractor side are known but that is due to their networking/conference speaking etc it doesn't necessarily related to how good their actual work is. I know a couple of people who are regarded as "hot names" and they openly admit that they aren't judged on their technical work.

                      On the agency side there are new agencies springing up every day normally ex-employees of larger agencies. How are you going to get around non-solicitation issues if the site isn't openly public?
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