General Long term Erosion of Contract market

[d000hg]

It makes me laugh when people play the race/BNP card when somebody is concerned about the level of immigration and consequences in this country, a very small island. That's the reason this 'great' country isn't so great anymore.

It's not crowded, the country can support this population easily.

If I look around and see dark faces and/or foreign broken-English accents it's not racist to assume these people aren't the indigenous population is it?

No that is NOT racist. I'm not sure it's racist to say those people shouldn't be here, that's xenophobia. Racism would be saying those people are inherently worse because of race, not because of nationality.

So, whilst 'natives' are sat on the bench and this lot are in effect taking their jobs, I feel it only right to speak out.

Once they're officially citizens, then it becomes pretty bad to say they shouldn't be here... they're paying taxes and so on. Arguing politically against using migrant workers is one thing, complaining about those who are citizens but have brown skin is just idiotic.

What galls me the most is that good people gave their lives in world war I and II to safeguard Britain yet in recent times we are giving the place away drip-by-drip. It's a cancer for which there is no cure.

From wikipedia, these are deaths as % of 1939 population in WW2:

- China: 2%
- Czech: 2%
- Poland: 16%
- Romania: 4%
- USSR: 14%
- UK <1%

We lost 400k people. Russia lost 24million, 60X more. I think we owe them...

[mace]

You sound very BNP, can you define 'native'? I've worked a few places and the only non-English person I ever worked with was a French guy. I've never worked in a company alongside anyone who didn't have a British passport...

You must be up north somewhere, or Wales. Foreigners still have taste.

[mace]

Jesus ******* christ

Get your head out of the ******* daily mail and try actually spending some time in the parts of the country which you don't inhabit.

Great Britain is the 15th Largest island in the world, only the south east is "crowded" the rest of it has great expanses of open green. Thankfully twats like you rarely leave whatever inner city pub you inhabit to pollute the rest of the country with your bile

As I understand it, food prices are rocketing up nowadays because China, in particular, has got richer and their population are demanding more meat in their diet and meat requires a much greater farmed acreage than vegetables (as the animals eat a lot). Although, there may be acres of green space over the planet, we're still overcrowded.

[mace]

- China: 2%
- Czech: 2%
- Poland: 16%
- Romania: 4%
- USSR: 14%
- UK <1%

We lost 400k people. Russia lost 24million, 60X more. I think we owe them...

Interesting idea that we should a lot jobs to foreigners based on how many of their grandparents were killed by other nation's granddads. The past is another country.

[mace]

Simply not true. On the contrary starting salaries for software programmers in India has probably gone DOWN over the last decade as it becomes less of a specialised, 'high-class' skill. In the 90s only the best graduates who could afford going to tailored courses paying lots of money got into IT; now technology institutes have mushroomed, graduating hundreds of thousands of young people from ever-lower social classes every year. The big software houses in India recognise this of course, they know these trends like the back of their hand: I hear that just-graduated kids joining these firms are being paid lower than ever before (even as rents in Indian cities have skyrocketed).

Indian salaries will take a few years to match UK ones, but it would probably start to lose it's competitiveness when they're half a UK workers. Currently glassdoor.com shows a goldman sachs analyst role in Bangalore at base salary of £19k, whilst you'd be talking £70-80k in London, so it's about 1/4. If Indian inflation is 10%, and the wages kept line with inflation then it would take about 7 years until GS would start pulling out, unless of course Indian workers start to reach the same levels of productivity as the equivalent UK worker, in which case it'll take longer.

[d000hg]

You must be up north somewhere, or Wales. Foreigners still have taste.

Indeed. It's very white up here, to the point you actually notice someone who's black, which then makes you feel weird for noticing. Quite a lot of Poles appeared, a corner shop started selling Polish papers, but visually of course they blend in.

Interesting idea that we should a lot jobs to foreigners based on how many of their grandparents were killed by other nation's granddads. The past is another country.

I agree. I was simply pointing out that even if that argument were valid, the other poster didn't even have his facts straight.

[steveweaver]

Basically the country has 'gone to the dogs'

[CheeseSlice]

Indeed. It's very white up here, to the point you actually notice someone who's black, which then makes you feel weird for noticing. Quite a lot of Poles appeared, a corner shop started selling Polish papers, but visually of course they blend in.

I agree. I was simply pointing out that even if that argument were valid, the other poster didn't even have his facts straight.

Where in the UK are you d000hg? nearest city?

[Flashman]

Indeed. It's very white up here, to the point you actually notice someone who's black, which then makes you feel weird for noticing. Quite a lot of Poles appeared, a corner shop started selling Polish papers, but visually of course they blend in.

I agree. I was simply pointing out that even if that argument were valid, the other poster didn't even have his facts straight.

So you live in a 'white' town but your complaining about posters who don't like living in multi-culti places?

Maybe you should try and live in a place like this Rochdale: One town's story of immigration - Telegraph

Then come back and tell us your opinion.

[SueEllen]

So you live in a 'white' town but your complaining about posters who don't like living in multi-culti places?

Maybe you should try and live in a place like this Rochdale: One town's story of immigration - Telegraph

Then come back and tell us your opinion.

Just because someone currently lives in a place doesn't mean they haven't moved in the past couple of years.

There are plenty of people who move around the country.