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  • eek
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

    IR35 is just a tax position. They are still your client.
    IR35 is more than a tax position, it introduces a second company (an umbrella) into the equation who may feel that the desires of the agency trump those of you as their employee.

    I'm awaiting the day (for it will come) when we get a post that an umbrella has paid minimum wage and pocketed the rest due to a breach of contract....

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post

    No it's not it's inside IR35
    IR35 is just a tax position. They are still your client.

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    This is business. Act like a business.
    No it's not it's inside IR35

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    This grind my gears. What do you think pulling a sickie will achieve? You aren't a permie. All this will do will make you look like a bit of a pillock. This is business. Act like a business.



    This one but also advise the new agent you need to delay by a week. They want you so will be willing to suffer a delay. They won't find anyone else in a week so they'll just wait. You get a week to do a handover for the old client so a decent halfway house. Don't bother offering free days, you'll likely be doing that already when the agent doesn't pay your last invoice but deal with that when and if it happens.
    Point 2 is there to extract you from a situation which is creating grief - given a crap Barclays contract with no escape clause on the contractors side its a valid excuse. To a exit a contract with a notice period early it's taking the mickey especially as everyone knows whats going on.

    Best to be honest and ask how quickly can I leave and then negotiating a mutually acceptable start date.
    Last edited by eek; 21 September 2021, 14:31.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by virtualm View Post
    2) Pull stress related sick leave next week for 3 weeks and hope they sign my timesheet for the days I worked in September?
    This grind my gears. What do you think pulling a sickie will achieve? You aren't a permie. All this will do will make you look like a bit of a pillock. This is business. Act like a business.

    3) Be honest with existing client and say I have a new role and will they let me go early. Again, maybe offer them some non chargeable days from this month as a sweetener?
    This one but also advise the new agent you need to delay by a week. They want you so will be willing to suffer a delay. They won't find anyone else in a week so they'll just wait. You get a week to do a handover for the old client so a decent halfway house. Don't bother offering free days, you'll likely be doing that already when the agent doesn't pay your last invoice but deal with that when and if it happens.

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  • virtualm
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    Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
    The client should not withhold payment for work done just because you want to leave. Surely in your 14 years you've served notice on a contract, or did you always just wait for them to expire so you've never developed any kind of client management skills?

    Give notice, as required by the contract. Request early release but be prepared that the answer could be no and manage the expectations of the new client accordingly. If you told them up front what your notice period is and they still offered the role then they should be willing to wait. Of course, if you lied about your availability then you have a problem to fix.

    Why you're worrying about burning bridges with a client you have no respect for, I don't know. Leaving a contract is not burning bridges if you use the skills you should have picked up over the time you've been contracting.

    Thanks for that.

    I've terminated one gig early before because it didn't work out and yes I got paid. It's just this one is a PITA client and just wondering what games they could play. I want to terminate early as I want a break before I start the new gig. I think stress leave will have to be actioned.

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  • ladymuck
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    The client should not withhold payment for work done just because you want to leave. Surely in your 14 years you've served notice on a contract, or did you always just wait for them to expire so you've never developed any kind of client management skills?

    Give notice, as required by the contract. Request early release but be prepared that the answer could be no and manage the expectations of the new client accordingly. If you told them up front what your notice period is and they still offered the role then they should be willing to wait. Of course, if you lied about your availability then you have a problem to fix.

    Why you're worrying about burning bridges with a client you have no respect for, I don't know. Leaving a contract is not burning bridges if you use the skills you should have picked up over the time you've been contracting.

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  • virtualm
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    I served my notice yesterday, but also got a massive dilemma as I was offered a new contract last night. Client wants me to start next week.

    I also found out the pimp has been actively looking for a replacement for me as well ffs.

    What do you reckon?

    1) Tell existing client I want to leave at the end of this week and risk them not signing my timesheet for this month? Maybe offer them some non chargeable days from this month as a sweetener?
    2) Pull stress related sick leave next week for 3 weeks and hope they sign my timesheet for the days I worked in September?
    3) Be honest with existing client and say I have a new role and will they let me go early. Again, maybe offer them some non chargeable days from this month as a sweetener?
    4) Do both gigs at the same time (joking as this will not work with my type of work meeting clashes etc).

    I'm trying not to burn a bridge, but seeing how the f'd everything up is swaying me towards point (2). And worse case I won't get paid.

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  • ensignia
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    None of those are anything out of the ordinary except maybe 7.

    How have you managed contracting for 14 years?

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  • AnthonyQuinn
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    Originally posted by virtualm View Post
    A bit of a rant, but I need to get this off my chest.

    I've been contracting for 14 years, never ever in my previous gigs have I experienced all of this sh.. in a single contract:-

    1) Delayed start date by 3 weeks, contract was signed and then amended with the new start date. So effectively I lost 3 weeks pay.
    2) I complained to the agency and they got really sh.. with me, now they don't speak to me.
    3) Laptop took 1 week to arrive, and then I had to take a load of training courses before I could gain access in my own time.
    4) Inside IR35, but OK as my day rate is inflated, but I have to go through a brolly.
    5) Client 4 weeks notice, me - 2 weeks.
    6) Agency originally offered 12 months contract, and this is what is in my contract but client then said it would be a 2 month contract renewable in 2 monthly increments. Then my 2 months passed, and now they are only renewing only a month by month basis. So I have no security whether they will extend on a month by month
    7) The role I applied for is completely different to what my skills are, I specialise as a Retail consultant and they are asking me to run Finance workshops and act as Finance consultant. When challenging this I was told this was mentioned to me in the interview, it was not. Then the client said if I don't like it then they will terminate my contract immediately. This part really confuses me as my interviews were specifically around my retail experience, my CV explores this in detail. How can they get this so wrong?
    8) 30 working days payment terms, OK no biggie, but I have to get my client to sign off my timesheet and they have been so doing this, and then this adds a delay to when I get paid.

    The only saving grace is that it's remote thank god.

    I know the old saying no such thing as a bad gig, yes I am getting paid. But I am so stressed with them expecting me to deliver in a role that I am not comfortable with.

    Is this the new normal? I can't wait to leave this place.
    no big deal.

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