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  • CheeseSlice
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    I don't think this is new. For years I've seen ads that say stuff like "permanent developer/architect/other urgently needed for project to do X". The requirement is clearly contractor material but for some reason they want a permy.

    What kind of perm looks at these and says, oh I'll be available in 3 months of notice period, so I'll apply! Maybe the client is really looking for contract to perm, or maybe they're just clueless or delusional.. in any case ignore, let them figure it out

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  • SussexSeagull
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    I do so love a school of hard knocks conversation at Christmas.

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  • hugebrain
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    Originally posted by oilboil View Post
    I mean if you are on £250 a day maybe your client will put up with you being that inadequate, but for those of us on proper day rates if you take longer than 2 weeks to become properly useful you will be binned.

    In your case either you are ineffectual or your client is an idiot. If it's the first and you are getting away with it then good on you. If it's the latter than you've hit the contract nirvana and you should milk it
    You guys totally underestimate how successful an ineffectual programmer can be.

    The things you should work on are the firm handshake and a big smile. After that you might worry about whether you can program or not, but it’s not super important. In fact, under COVID restrictions you might not even need the first two things!

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  • oilboil
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
    From a software development perspective, i don't about other roles.
    But you can start doing bug fixes after 3 days. But major code refactoring and redesign or adding major features, the heavy lifting that we get paid for, normally requires a few months to get up to speed..
    I mean if you are on £250 a day maybe your client will put up with you being that inadequate, but for those of us on proper day rates if you take longer than 2 weeks to become properly useful you will be binned.

    In your case either you are ineffectual or your client is an idiot. If it's the first and you are getting away with it then good on you. If it's the latter than you've hit the contract nirvana and you should milk it

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  • BR14
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Which stable is this one from?
    the Bethlehem one, i think.

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  • northernladuk
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    Which stable is this one from?

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  • Fraidycat
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    Originally posted by BR14 View Post
    balderdash! if it took that long you'd be out on your ear!
    From a software development perspective, i don't about other roles.
    But you can start doing bug fixes after 3 days. But major code refactoring and redesign or adding major features, the heavy lifting that we get paid for, normally requires a few months to get up to speed..
    Last edited by Fraidycat; 25 December 2020, 14:24.

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  • BR14
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
    it takes most people 3 to 6 months just to get up to speed on a project.

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    balderdash! if it took that long you'd be out on your ear!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by ApeShape View Post
    As I understand it, you can be fired for absolutely any reason in the first two years. Another beautiful contribution to labour laws by the Tories / Dave Scameroon.

    My contractor friend is being pushed out of a contract role and he knows that they're in the process of replacing him with a 6 month 'perm' head. Then again, it's all remote now so they've likely figured since the contractor did so well remotely why not get Raj from Rajasthan on £15 per week to do the same.
    Not anything covered by the equality laws.

    Plus health conditions can change into a disability at anytime....

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  • Abbot
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    Originally posted by sira View Post
    To my knowledge agencies dont receive their full fee until the permie passess probation. I have heard of some agency contracts where the agency will refund the firm, if the employee doesnt stay for at least 1 year.
    In a past life as a permie recruiting manager that certainly was not the case for me. They might have given a rebate or a free replacement but they certainly did not refund when a new hire walked out, regardless of whether they were in or post probation. Someone walked out on his first day and the full fee was still due.

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