Will more jobs be outsourced to India after Rishi Sunak is the Chancellor?

[TestMangler]

How many times have I been at a client where ten years ago Accenture etc came in, raped and pillaged, and got thrown out, after £millions had gone down the drain, only to find: guess who's here again in greater numbers than before? Yes - you've got it.

Clients have no memory whatsoever.

Exactly this. I watched Accidenture get offed a project once after doing in a massive budget and handing over, literally, a list of stuff that hadn't been completed yet (like nearly all of it). Less than a month later they were back on an even bigger project for the same client. Happens all the time. Same client brought another big consultancy in for a transformation program, binned them half way through and brought Accidenture in when their previous record was, at best, tulipe.

Anyone who thinks this will lead to 'taking back control' of UK IT projects by UK contractors is borderline mental.

[PlanB]

How many times have I been at a client where ten years ago Accenture etc came in, raped and pillaged, and got thrown out, after £millions had gone down the drain, only to find: guess who's here again in greater numbers than before? Yes - you've got it.

Clients have no memory whatsoever.

Unfortunately the decision makers are often none technical and have no understanding of what a good delivery looks like. They are loathed to do any lessons learnt as the come back will be on them and will pass the blame onto the supplier when they are the numpties who should have got fired for hiring them in the first place. You often see "CTOs" doing the rounds going from one disaster to another before they have to carry the can.

As soon as the usual suspects, Capastrophe, Crapita, Accenture are involved you know it's going to be a disaster. I've seen more delivered by a team of 3 good guys and no BS than legion of big consultancies.

[Paralytic]

Worked at several clients where the work involved replacing Infosys crap to provent client being gouged ad infinitum. They may be cheap but those clients have no intention of dealing with them again.

Yes, they'll get TCS in instead

You're deluded if you think these companies will all of a sudden start demanding on-shore resources only.

[perplexed]

I disagree. Most companies will look at the bottom line. Consultancy costs are up front and real. The cost of Technical debt is hidden and re-paid up over time.

Well aware of technical debt costs over time.

Worked at several clients where the work involved replacing Infosys crap to provent client being gouged ad infinitum. They may be cheap but those clients have no intention of dealing with them again.

[Cirrus]

Ya think ?

How many times have I been at a client where ten years ago Accenture etc came in, raped and pillaged, and got thrown out, after £millions had gone down the drain, only to find: guess who's here again in greater numbers than before? Yes - you've got it.

Clients have no memory whatsoever.

[Paralytic]

Most companies won't want to repeat the mistakes of offshoring.

Using consultancies wtih a British base on site is a different matter.

I disagree. Most companies will look at the bottom line. Consultancy costs are up front and real. The cost of Technical debt is hidden and re-paid up over time.

[Naruto1]

I had the misfortune of working for Infosys on a 3 months contract.
They wanted me to come on time but have no fixed ending time like their workers back in India.
Had to complain to my agency before they dropped this bs.

[mrdonuts]

They were on 30K before. Does a 20% drop make much difference?

maybe not but the UNLIMITED part will

[rossb2]

UNLIMITED IT STAFF ON 24KPA
=contract market destroyed + no need to worry about IR35 anymore

They were on 30K before. Does a 20% drop make much difference?

[mrdonuts]

UNLIMITED IT STAFF ON 24KPA
=contract market destroyed + no need to worry about IR35 anymore