Perhaps by way of response, you say, until he tells you whether or not it is inside IR35, you legally can't tell him your rate...
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Originally posted by simes View PostPerhaps by way of response, you say, until he tells you whether or not it is inside IR35, you legally can't tell him your rate...The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostAt which point he'll think "what a chunt" and cross the OP off his shortlist.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostAt which point he'll think "what a chunt" and cross the OP off his shortlist.Comment
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I think there's some confusion here.
If the role does not fall within the PS remit - i.e. the PS body does not have to make a determination, then it's carry on as before, i.e. the contractorCo makes the determination. If it is out of scope, no agent or client are going to willingly assure you (in writing!) that you're IR35 'safe'.
The question is whether the role falls within the scope of the changes - do the PS body have to make an IR35 decision, or is it out of scope?Comment
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Originally posted by mudskipper View PostI think there's some confusion here.
If the role does not fall within the PS remit - i.e. the PS body does not have to make a determination, then it's carry on as before, i.e. the contractorCo makes the determination. If it is out of scope, no agent or client are going to willingly assure you (in writing!) that you're IR35 'safe'.
The question is whether the role falls within the scope of the changes - do the PS body have to make an IR35 decision, or is it out of scope?'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostBut he can't legally tell us......Comment
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Ask if you’ll be paid your day rate + VAT direct to your LTD. In public sector with the new rules they can’t do that so that should be most of the answer. After that it’s down to the normal checks and practises.See You Next TuesdayComment
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They do work for the PS so it isn't his call, and the agent also has a legal obligation, especially since they generally also have clients in the PS.
You'll probably see more of this as time goes on and clients/agents become culpable for IR35.
Even if the agent says it is or isn't you won't really know until you have the contract.
Just ask him whether it is in the public or private sector, if in the public sector assume it is within IR35.
One thing I would say is that the agency takes their legal obligations seriously which isn't a bad sign, even if you could argue they've gone too far.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by simes View PostPerhaps sarcasm doesn't come across... It Was a bloody joke FFS.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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