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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Should be OK if he can pronounce funny names.
    Not if they require clearing
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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      #12
      Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
      He (or she) wants to build and develop a high-performing team.



      The Chunt of Chunts.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
        Poor bugger Seriously, though, without wishing to frighten you too much, read those threads linked by eek. The PS is about to become a desert (and not the tasty sort that's served with cream).

        In terms of your specific question, I'm not sure why this would be a concern. You are different. You're a contractor, there to deliver, not to make friends with the permies. In my experience, "them and us" is usually symptomatic of something else, such as being crap. If you're good, I can't see it arising and, if it does, enjoy your "them" status and all associated perks.
        No, that would have needed an extra 's'

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Only Way Is Keynsham View Post
          No, that would have needed an extra 's'
          Literalist

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            #15
            Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
            Family photo on the auspicious occasion of Danny Alexander returning to the Treasury.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mercutio View Post
              Hello All -

              I'm a complete newbie to the world of contracting, but have recently landed my first contract to work as a project engineer via an agency and with the UK government as my client.

              I shall be based near Bristol.

              Does anyone have any experience of running projects on behalf of HM's Government? I am slightly concerned that the "us and them" culture of contractors vs permies may be an impediment to building and developing a high performing team? Or is it water off a ducks back to the Civil Service - it does rather seem that they routinely out-source to contractors for one-off projects?

              Any advice would be very welcome.

              Many Thanks!
              High-performing? What the hell? Are you fresh off a course and think you can be a contractor now?



              Joking aside, eek's links will prove invaluable, especially if you weren't aware of the April 2017 changes. I must admit, if I ever get approached for a PS gig, it'll have to be on a "plus expenses" basis, the way that Capita and others get to operate.
              The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                #17
                Originally posted by eek View Post
                Unless you are on the very top rate of CLone's rates you would be better going in as a permie rather than an umbrella. When you look at the pension benefits alone there is little reason to accept anything else
                What is a decent rate in the public sector, out of curiosity?

                Surely anything over 400/d would be worth while, given how poor the perm salaries are. Pension benefits aren't as amazing as people think (i.e 10-15% contribution).

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by blackeye View Post
                  What is a decent rate in the public sector, out of curiosity?

                  Surely anything over 400/d would be worth while, given how poor the perm salaries are. Pension benefits aren't as amazing as people think (i.e 10-15% contribution).
                  Not after April, if you fall into the IR35 caught bucket.
                  The Chunt of Chunts.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
                    Not after April, if you fall into the IR35 caught bucket.
                    Any calculations to back up this?

                    A 400/d contract role I'd guess is the equivalent of a 50k perm job.

                    Perm role would net £3k per month. Plus the pension which would be worth £600pm.

                    A contract role @ 400/d, caught inside would net around £4800pm. Even with the new rules you can still contribute towards a SIPP.

                    Thats a big difference and ultimately you still get paid much more than a perm.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by blackeye View Post
                      Any calculations to back up this?

                      A 400/d contract role I'd guess is the equivalent of a 50k perm job.

                      Perm role would net £3k per month. Plus the pension which would be worth £600pm.

                      A contract role @ 400/d, caught inside would net around £4800pm. Even with the new rules you can still contribute towards a SIPP.

                      Thats a big difference and ultimately you still get paid much more than a perm.
                      Holidays, sickness, training, promotion, job security, perm benefits like gym, car etc... how much are these worth.

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