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Any advice for government contracting?
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostHe (or she) wants to build and develop a high-performing team.
The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostPoor bugger Seriously, though, without wishing to frighten you too much, read those threads linked by eek. The PS is about to become a desert (and not the tasty sort that's served with cream).
In terms of your specific question, I'm not sure why this would be a concern. You are different. You're a contractor, there to deliver, not to make friends with the permies. In my experience, "them and us" is usually symptomatic of something else, such as being crap. If you're good, I can't see it arising and, if it does, enjoy your "them" status and all associated perks.Comment
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Originally posted by The Only Way Is Keynsham View PostNo, that would have needed an extra 's'Comment
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostComment
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Originally posted by Mercutio View PostHello All -
I'm a complete newbie to the world of contracting, but have recently landed my first contract to work as a project engineer via an agency and with the UK government as my client.
I shall be based near Bristol.
Does anyone have any experience of running projects on behalf of HM's Government? I am slightly concerned that the "us and them" culture of contractors vs permies may be an impediment to building and developing a high performing team? Or is it water off a ducks back to the Civil Service - it does rather seem that they routinely out-source to contractors for one-off projects?
Any advice would be very welcome.
Many Thanks!
Joking aside, eek's links will prove invaluable, especially if you weren't aware of the April 2017 changes. I must admit, if I ever get approached for a PS gig, it'll have to be on a "plus expenses" basis, the way that Capita and others get to operate.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by eek View PostUnless you are on the very top rate of CLone's rates you would be better going in as a permie rather than an umbrella. When you look at the pension benefits alone there is little reason to accept anything else
Surely anything over 400/d would be worth while, given how poor the perm salaries are. Pension benefits aren't as amazing as people think (i.e 10-15% contribution).Comment
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Originally posted by blackeye View PostWhat is a decent rate in the public sector, out of curiosity?
Surely anything over 400/d would be worth while, given how poor the perm salaries are. Pension benefits aren't as amazing as people think (i.e 10-15% contribution).The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostNot after April, if you fall into the IR35 caught bucket.
A 400/d contract role I'd guess is the equivalent of a 50k perm job.
Perm role would net £3k per month. Plus the pension which would be worth £600pm.
A contract role @ 400/d, caught inside would net around £4800pm. Even with the new rules you can still contribute towards a SIPP.
Thats a big difference and ultimately you still get paid much more than a perm.Comment
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Originally posted by blackeye View PostAny calculations to back up this?
A 400/d contract role I'd guess is the equivalent of a 50k perm job.
Perm role would net £3k per month. Plus the pension which would be worth £600pm.
A contract role @ 400/d, caught inside would net around £4800pm. Even with the new rules you can still contribute towards a SIPP.
Thats a big difference and ultimately you still get paid much more than a perm.Comment
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