Any advice for government contracting?

[eek]

Should be OK if he can pronounce funny names.

Not if they require clearing

[MrMarkyMark]

He (or she) wants to build and develop a high-performing team.

[The Only Way Is Keynsham]

Poor bugger Seriously, though, without wishing to frighten you too much, read those threads linked by eek. The PS is about to become a desert (and not the tasty sort that's served with cream).

In terms of your specific question, I'm not sure why this would be a concern. You are different. You're a contractor, there to deliver, not to make friends with the permies. In my experience, "them and us" is usually symptomatic of something else, such as being crap. If you're good, I can't see it arising and, if it does, enjoy your "them" status and all associated perks.

No, that would have needed an extra 's'

[jamesbrown]

No, that would have needed an extra 's'

Literalist

[jamesbrown]

Family photo on the auspicious occasion of Danny Alexander returning to the Treasury.

[LondonManc]

Hello All -

I'm a complete newbie to the world of contracting, but have recently landed my first contract to work as a project engineer via an agency and with the UK government as my client.

I shall be based near Bristol.

Does anyone have any experience of running projects on behalf of HM's Government? I am slightly concerned that the "us and them" culture of contractors vs permies may be an impediment to building and developing a high performing team? Or is it water off a ducks back to the Civil Service - it does rather seem that they routinely out-source to contractors for one-off projects?

Any advice would be very welcome.

Many Thanks!

High-performing? What the hell? Are you fresh off a course and think you can be a contractor now?



Joking aside, eek's links will prove invaluable, especially if you weren't aware of the April 2017 changes. I must admit, if I ever get approached for a PS gig, it'll have to be on a "plus expenses" basis, the way that Capita and others get to operate.

[blackeye]

Unless you are on the very top rate of CLone's rates you would be better going in as a permie rather than an umbrella. When you look at the pension benefits alone there is little reason to accept anything else

What is a decent rate in the public sector, out of curiosity?

Surely anything over 400/d would be worth while, given how poor the perm salaries are. Pension benefits aren't as amazing as people think (i.e 10-15% contribution).

[MrMarkyMark]

What is a decent rate in the public sector, out of curiosity?

Surely anything over 400/d would be worth while, given how poor the perm salaries are. Pension benefits aren't as amazing as people think (i.e 10-15% contribution).

Not after April, if you fall into the IR35 caught bucket.

[blackeye]

Not after April, if you fall into the IR35 caught bucket.

Any calculations to back up this?

A 400/d contract role I'd guess is the equivalent of a 50k perm job.

Perm role would net £3k per month. Plus the pension which would be worth £600pm.

A contract role @ 400/d, caught inside would net around £4800pm. Even with the new rules you can still contribute towards a SIPP.

Thats a big difference and ultimately you still get paid much more than a perm.

[SlipTheJab]

Any calculations to back up this?

A 400/d contract role I'd guess is the equivalent of a 50k perm job.

Perm role would net £3k per month. Plus the pension which would be worth £600pm.

A contract role @ 400/d, caught inside would net around £4800pm. Even with the new rules you can still contribute towards a SIPP.

Thats a big difference and ultimately you still get paid much more than a perm.

Holidays, sickness, training, promotion, job security, perm benefits like gym, car etc... how much are these worth.