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  • eek
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    Originally posted by rocktronAMP View Post
    That's note what I fecking agreed with [Irish Leprechaun emoticon required]. It is like agreeing £450 per day for 6 months in central London, then the next Tuesday, sorry we reduce to £400 per day. Oh yes. The monthly and yearly ticket rail fares for Southern, Midland trains are going up by 3% on January 2017. I don't see the Oystercard either coming down in price either. Sad for your mate, he should have walked.
    The way I read it was that he sympathised but told them to fluff off...

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  • rocktronAMP
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    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Exactly, working directly with these sort of clowns is asking for trouble, rates are usually tulip with it.
    Recently, a mate was contacted direct about a role, everything, rate and duration etc, all agreed. He was told he would have to go through a very large Indian out sourcer, he reluctantly agreed.
    A day later they were then on the blower bleating about times been hard and could he reduce his rate by £50 PD.

    He agreed and sympathised with them that, Yes times were very hard, but they could feck right off in any case
    That's note what I fecking agreed with [Irish Leprechaun emoticon required]. It is like agreeing £450 per day for 6 months in central London, then the next Tuesday, sorry we reduce to £400 per day. Oh yes. The monthly and yearly ticket rail fares for Southern, Midland trains are going up by 3% on January 2017. I don't see the Oystercard either coming down in price either. Sad for your mate, he should have walked.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Exactly, working directly with these sort of clowns is asking for trouble, rates are usually tulip with it.
    Recently, a mate was contacted direct about a role, everything, rate and duration etc, all agreed. He was told he would have to go through a very large Indian out sourcer, he reluctantly agreed.
    A day later they were then on the blower bleating about times been hard and could he reduce his rate by £50 PD.

    He agreed and sympathised with them that, Yes times were very hard, but they could feck right off in any case
    Someone tried that with me before this contract.

    Yes times may be hard but I've got 3 other offers and I'm happy to take one of the others.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Hopefully but why take the risk if other agencies have the same role...
    Exactly, working directly with these sort of clowns is asking for trouble, rates are usually tulip with it.
    Recently, a mate was contacted direct about a role, everything, rate and duration etc, all agreed. He was told he would have to go through a very large Indian out sourcer, he reluctantly agreed.
    A day later they were then on the blower bleating about times been hard and could he reduce his rate by £50 PD.

    He agreed and sympathised with them that, Yes times were very hard, but they could feck right off in any case

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    You think the guys working with the end client isn't well-spoken and credible then? We are treated as cannon fodder, nobody is wasting expertise or money on getting us hired in so we get the cheapest possible drone to deal with our end. The real good people are up at the sharp end winning the business.
    Hopefully but why take the risk if other agencies have the same role...

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by rocktronAMP View Post
    And I also think that as a contractor they are representing you as a business to the client.
    Each to their own. I don't want an agency representing to me or a client with broken English.
    So it is your own reputational risk to think of.
    .....
    You think the guys working with the end client isn't well-spoken and credible then? We are treated as cannon fodder, nobody is wasting expertise or money on getting us hired in so we get the cheapest possible drone to deal with our end. The real good people are up at the sharp end winning the business.

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  • rocktronAMP
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    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Where have you been, SilverLink, Blackapple etc. have been doing this for ages?
    Thanks MrMarkMark for the heads-up on these guys! Mine was IBU Consulting Ltd

    I just reviewed my call log only a few years ago (2013) when dealing Arrows Group and they were pleasant enough then. The times, they are a-changing.

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  • rocktronAMP
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    Originally posted by oliverson View Post
    Because you still have to be there under their supervision and you still have to see payment of your invoices. I've never had the displeasure to have to contract through one of these parasites but I did contract with another guy who did. When it came to signing his weekly timesheet they were quibbling about a 5 minute toilet break, a few minutes getting a coffee, I kid you not. It inevitably delayed the invoice payments, week after week. Dreadful state of affairs.

    Aside from this, as a matter of principle (yes I'm a contractor, I shouldn't have any), I look upon consultancies as competitors, worse still, if I contract through them, they are creaming off me far more than any agency could hope for and stiffing the client for no real added value. Bill me out at double my rate. Clients must be thick or lazy, preferring to wash their hands of managing their own development efforts. Mostly ends in tears anyhow.
    And I also think that as a contractor they are representing you as a business to the client.
    Each to their own. I don't want an agency representing to me or a client with broken English.
    So it is your own reputational risk to think of.
    I also think if client like investment bank, e-commerce service or start-up is going for these sort of outfits then it transfers probably the projects and the outcome.
    Sure. I could look only at cold-hard cash money, but I rather stay clear for now until they improve substantially.

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  • oliverson
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    Originally posted by The Plantswoman View Post
    What does it matter if you get the role and they pay your invoices?
    Because you still have to be there under their supervision and you still have to see payment of your invoices. I've never had the displeasure to have to contract through one of these parasites but I did contract with another guy who did. When it came to signing his weekly timesheet they were quibbling about a 5 minute toilet break, a few minutes getting a coffee, I kid you not. It inevitably delayed the invoice payments, week after week. Dreadful state of affairs.

    Aside from this, as a matter of principle (yes I'm a contractor, I shouldn't have any), I look upon consultancies as competitors, worse still, if I contract through them, they are creaming off me far more than any agency could hope for and stiffing the client for no real added value. Bill me out at double my rate. Clients must be thick or lazy, preferring to wash their hands of managing their own development efforts. Mostly ends in tears anyhow.

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  • Milkyway
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    Originally posted by rocktronAMP View Post
    This seems to happening more and more this year.

    I had calls from Arrows Group UK, which I have now blocked, where their people have poor English: "When you make the CV", "If you would be fine", "you can reply me back"
    I don't want this agency to represent my contracting business. It seems like they have outsourced their recruitment consultants.

    And then this morning I had an email from a different company outfit supposedly based in Harrow, HA1, London. They also had an office based in India Pty as advertised on the email signature.
    The email was about a ____ developer job in central London for 6 months. So I thought okay, goody.

    So I started reading:



    The job description text appeared all in blue in my Gmail, and at the bottom of the email it read:



    It was complete spam. I just thought this was basic-level bottom of the pyramid stuff. They obviously grabbed my details from JobSite or CWJobs website, because I am looking, but I now believe that this trend of clipper cheap-as-chips cowboy building contractor is very real. Somebody else out there falling for the hook like a fish and it ain't me.

    See also the thread State of the Market from a few weeks ago!
    This is why you should work sometimes rather than just sleeping for 2 decades.
    This has been happening for ages.
    Ok, now get up from your sofa and go outside and start looking for work in the real world.

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