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    #31
    Originally posted by No2politics View Post
    you dont have to wait and skill up before you go contracting you can learn on the job.
    That sort of statement makes me realise why I come across contractors with no skills these days.
    The Chunt of Chunts.

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      #32
      Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
      That sort of statement makes me realise why I come across contractors with no skills these days.
      Probably a desktop box shifter though....

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        #33
        FTFY

        Originally posted by stek View Post
        Probably a burger flipper, with aspirations, though....
        The Chunt of Chunts.

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          #34
          Im assuming you have the ability to skill up/ learn quickly. The vast vast majority of permies I encounter are dreadfully bad, so its not hard to look good when the benchmark is so low.
          "You can't climb the ladder of success, with your hands in the pockets"
          Arnold Schwarzenegger

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            #35
            Originally posted by No2politics View Post
            The longer you leave it before going contracting, the more money you are missing out on!!
            If you contract just for the money then you are in for a shock somewhere down the line.

            Originally posted by No2politics View Post
            I made the jump after less than 4 year of my first perm job. Although everyone said it was a risky move it current climate (sept 2008) i figured since id be doubling my take home and it was a 6 month contract i felt comfortable with the risk. I had a one month notice period so I slid straight from one to the next. I didnt have savings but could have always moved back home i guess. you dont have to wait and skill up before you go contracting you can learn on the job. I have seen some clients wait for three month notice periods. I myself have just secured a role starting 1st march. Always good to finish a post with a quote so "if you want to learn how to swim, jump into the water" bruce lee
            You are aware that a contract isn't secure to you are on-site? And even then if someone higher up decides to can the project that's it. If you are lucky you will get your notice period if not they will make up a lie to get rid of you.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #36
              Originally posted by No2politics View Post
              Im assuming you have the ability to skill up/ learn quickly. The vast vast majority of permies I encounter are dreadfully bad, so its not hard to look good when the benchmark is so low.
              The OP hasn't posted (and I don't advise them to do so) the technologies they specialise in. They may be in a niche area where there are are few contract roles. Or they may be in a main stream area with loads of roles and loads of contractors with years of contracting experience.
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #37
                Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
                That sort of statement makes me realise why I come across contractors with no skills these days.
                You've got to realise the market has been changing (or in some cases has already changed). Many hire contractors as a quick resource to keep the project on-track and the expectations for contractors to stand out aren't as big of a requirement.

                I'm sure there is always going to be place for a highly skilled contractor ready to get-going on the first day, but many places do allow for some learning up on an assignment

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by No2politics View Post
                  Im assuming you have the ability to skill up/ learn quickly. The vast vast majority of permies I encounter are dreadfully bad, so its not hard to look good when the benchmark is so low.
                  The thing is, when I started people wouldn't have dared try and go in, with no skills.
                  That is what we used to get paid well for.

                  Now it seems I have to put up with training poor quality contractors on the job itself.
                  Completely unacceptable.

                  I mean I had a contract PM, this morning, he does not know the difference between a business requirements doc and the DB functional spec.

                  Then, I have the BA who said you do not need to state what columns you want in a reporting BRD.

                  Feck
                  Last edited by MrMarkyMark; 15 December 2015, 16:04.
                  The Chunt of Chunts.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
                    The thing is, when I started people wouldn't have dared try and go in, with no skills.
                    That is what we used to get paid well for.

                    Now it seems I have to put up with training poor quality contractors on the job itself.
                    Completely unacceptable.

                    I mean I had a contract PM, this morning, he does not know the difference between a business requirements doc and the DB functional spec.

                    Then, I have the BA who said you do not need to state what columns you want in a reporting BRD.

                    Feck
                    That is pretty bad.

                    Certainly not advocating going contracting with no skills. But lets say you have transferrable skills and you back yourself to learn quickly - and by that I mean self learning rather than asking people basic questions - then you should take the plunge.

                    It helps to be in a niche area though - my specialism is statistical analysis and machine learning. A bob free zone
                    "You can't climb the ladder of success, with your hands in the pockets"
                    Arnold Schwarzenegger

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
                      The thing is, when I started people wouldn't have dared try and go in, with no skills.
                      That is what we used to get paid well for.

                      Now it seems I have to put up with training poor quality contractors on the job itself.
                      Completely unacceptable.
                      Feck
                      Don't bother training them then - there is a thing called Google.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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