Isn't it time to let this go?

[darmstadt]

The UK are paying nearly 3 times the price per dose from AZ than the EU as they insisted on a clause in the contract that they would get all their doses to the detriment of everyone else. This is why Johnson cites 'national security' over the contents of the UK-AZ contract

[BlasterBates]

Do you concede that the way the UK handled vaccine procurement was more probable due to brexit?

Declaring it a benefit of brexit is a bit silly, as brexiteers didn't know about covid in 2016, however it sure will invigorate the narrative that the EU is an ineffective bureaucracy.

Well if all countries had done what Britain has done there would have been multiple acrimonious battles between different EU countries as they all scrambled for first "dibbs". The Brexiteers would then have pointed to this as a failure of the EU.

The fact is that the disadvantages of a combined bureacracy still outweighs the disadvantages of 27 countries scrapping with each other.

If Astra-Zeneca had been upfront about the UK having precedence then the EU could have ramped up orders with Pfizer, rather than learning about this without notice 6 months after ordering the vaccines. The UK manufacturing sites were listed in the contract.

[TheGreenBastard]

Yes but it was under EU law, so it's completely ridiculous to suggest this was possible because of Brexit.

The fact that this is trumpeted as the main benefit of Brexit demonstrates the futility Brexit.

Do you concede that the way the UK handled vaccine procurement was more probable due to brexit?

Declaring it a benefit of brexit is a bit silly, as brexiteers didn't know about covid in 2016, however it sure will invigorate the narrative that the EU is an ineffective bureaucracy.

[BlasterBates]

Liz Truss on LBC sounds uncomfortable justifying businesses going under because of red tape caused by Brexit.

[BlasterBates]

The UK left the EU in Jan 2020

Yes but it was under EU law, so it's completely ridiculous to suggest this was possible because of Brexit.

The fact that this is trumpeted as the main benefit of Brexit demonstrates the futility Brexit.

[BlasterBates]

And I forgot to include Covid and vaccinations!

I like Brexit too!!

[cojak]

But it's been less than a month.

During a pandemic when people can't travel.

And in January when people are paying off Christmas and haven't yet bought anything from Europe, and if they have are wondering why their packages are still stuck at the post office but haven't got around to finding out why...

Brexit: - I was asked to pay an extra GBP82 for my GBP200 coat - BBC News

No, there's much more entertainment to be had here.

And I forgot to include Covid and vaccinations!

[TheGreenBastard]

Now you're talking bollox and babbling on like the Daily Mail...

You may find this interesting...

Nice deflection and personal insult! The intellect of a slug.

[Paddy]

Could have? Historical options don't matter, here we are, this is what happened.

And it's dishonest to say it was completely optional, the EU taking over procurement wasn't gentle, hence Germany being absolutely livid.

Time to take the blinkers off, the EU will be better for it.

Now you're talking bollox and babbling on like the Daily Mail...

You may find this interesting...

[TheGreenBastard]

The EU, procurement process was voluntary however, all 27 countries signed up to it. Any EU country could have chosen to go-it-alone. We are too close to Europe to rely on just the UK to be properly vaccinated. The whole of Europe needs to be vaccinated to the maximum before lockdown can fully be dispensed with.

Could have? Historical options don't matter, here we are, this is what happened.

And it's dishonest to say it was completely optional, the EU taking over procurement wasn't gentle, hence Germany being absolutely livid.

Time to take the blinkers off, the EU will be better for it.