Tory party members happy to destroy the UK to get Brexit

[JohntheBike]

FTFY

To a large extend life seems more expensive nowadays, because there is a lot more considered "essential" that didn't even exist 50 years ago.

In any case none of it has anything to do with the UK EU membership, since contrary to the popular belief we have always had control.

"because there is a lot more considered "essential" that didn't even exist 50 years ago"

agreed.

[JohntheBike]

In your opinion were they cheaper because we were not in the EU?

I didn't say that.

[Whorty]

what I'm spouting today is that I guess there are many young people of today who would wish that many of what you might consider to be the "essentials" of every day life today, were relatively cheaper pre EU days.

So.

It's expensive to live in Hong Kong. It's expensive to live in Singapore. It's expensive to live in Melbourne. It's expensive in Iceland.

None of these places are are in the EU.

Fact is, the world has become expensive. As the divide between 'rich' and 'poor' has reduced, more people can aspire (and do) own property. This has been going on around the globe since the 70's.

Then it's a simple case of supply and demand Oh, and the fact that there are billions more now than 1960 (3 billion then, 7.7 billion now). The world hasn't got any bigger so there is more demand for the scarce resources.

Idiot.

[fool]

There's no contention about it, it was cheaper. There were council houses, most rented properties weren't privately owned. Going to university didn't require a loan, in fact you were given a grant. Kids got free school meals. etc. The EU didn't change any of that.



Companies were sold to shareholders. Shareholders demand profits and generally aren't interested in money being invested in "manufacturing", so sell off and outsource to the cheapest option to keep the shareholders happy and to make sure the funds are there for the pension pots of the board.

Perhaps the pining is for Victorian days, when women didn't vote, etc. Or maybe it's the idea of harking back to "The War" by people who didn't fight in it and show more support for the axis powers than for the allies.

Most men didn't have the vote back then either. It was just landowners, and now instead of the vote it's retirement that only landowners are getting.

[sal]

what I'm spouting today is that I guess there are many young people of today who would wish that many of what you might consider to be the "essentials" of every day life today, were relatively cheaper didn't even exist in pre EU days.

FTFY

To a large extend life seems more expensive nowadays, because there is a lot more considered "essential" that didn't even exist 50 years ago.

In any case none of it has anything to do with the UK EU membership, since contrary to the popular belief we have always had control.

[WTFH]

what I'm spouting today is that I guess there are many young people of today who would wish that many of what you might consider to be the "essentials" of every day life today, were relatively cheaper pre EU days.

In your opinion were they cheaper because we were not in the EU?

[JohntheBike]

No, I was thinking more like those who claim that "studies have been done that all poor people deserve to be poor and just need to accept it" or whatever it is that you are spouting today.

"studies have been done that all poor people deserve to be poor and just need to accept it"

I didn't say that. However, it doesn't seem to be PC these days to ask why they are poor. You can make up your own mind about that.

"whatever it is that you are spouting today"

what I'm spouting today is that I guess there are many young people of today who would wish that many of what you might consider to be the "essentials" of every day life today, were relatively cheaper pre EU days.

[Zigenare]

I don't think anyone claims that the EU is the best thing ever, but it is certainly not the cause and 100% to blame for everything that is not perfect in this world. Contrary to the opinions of some.

You hide behind that quite a lot, don't you?

[Old Greg]

No you do not understand.

The EU has been a benefit to everyone.

And if you do not believe that we shall send you for re-education.

There is no discussion, there is no argument.

Isn't it an odd feature of this totalitarian state that you describe, that the press is able to freely criticise the EU, even to the extent of publishing falsehoods about the EU?

[WTFH]

No you do not understand.

The EU has been a benefit to everyone.

And if you do not believe that we shall send you for re-education.

There is no discussion, there is no argument.

I don't think anyone claims that the EU is the best thing ever, but it is certainly not the cause and 100% to blame for everything that is not perfect in this world. Contrary to the opinions of some.